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CDP1802 wrote: The Highlander, where is he?
He might be hard to find -- it's a big world, and there's only one.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Targeting Innocents. Targeting children.
Sympathies can never cover the anguish caused in Manchester.
And old question and and old song that never grows old[^]
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We ultimately have two choices:
1) Do something*
2) Do nothing
*1 - posting to {insert favourite blog/social media site} isn't actually "doing something" 
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
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They might make people feel better but it hardly deals with the underlying causes does it? It's like taking a painkiller for cancer.
Doing nothing pretty much guarantees more suffering to come.
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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Painkiller?[^] Good idea.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Hell yeah! This made my day! 
Such an awesome album! \m/  \m/
Back on the subject, gathering likes may look like it does nothing (and maybe it really doesn't), but I've always seen it as some kind of advertising. Maybe people will come across a post and actually take action. In that case "just" sharing did make a difference 
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Quote: Through boiling clouds if thunder
Blasting bolts of steel
Evils going under deadly wheels
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF
* GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
* Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game.
* I'm a puny punmaker.
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Thanks.. I'm feeling better about the slaughter of my countrymen already 
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
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And it gets even better asfter that: Hell Patrol, All Guns Blazing...
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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If you want to do something, why not grab some explosives and pay them a visit?*
* --> SARCASM, don't take seriously!!! <--
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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CDP1802 wrote: why not grab some explosives and pay them a visit
Yeah, I see your 'sarcasm' comment, but..
..the answer to your question is this: I'm British, born and raised here and generally conform to (what we see as) western civilised culture. As a nation, we welcome anyone who shares that love of freedom, free speech, democracy, respect for others. Unfortunately, our government(s) has (over the last few decades) turned a blind eye to those who come here who actually hated our way of life, resented our culture and wanted to live in separate parallel societies.
We're seeing the results on a regular basis.
Don't forget to 'like' though.. it'll make all the difference (just as it did for London, Paris, Nice, Cologne, etc, etc..)
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
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Someone from Texas would probably tell us that this is the time to get a selection of guns from your personal arsenal and get going. The impulse to do something like that is understandable, especially if you actually have the means. The only problem is that self appointed defenders more likely than not can't do anything useful at all and may even make things worse.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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There's no dancing around the fact that we have separate communities living within our countries. We can wring our hands, ask why oh why, find a million and one excuses but until we (as a society) get a grip on what really needs doing, expect more attacks and do what you can to prepare your families.
Once upon a time, we had a safe, peaceful nation. That wasn't good enough for some do-gooders though. And here we are..
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
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Brent Jenkins wrote: There's no dancing around the fact that we have separate communities living within our countries.
Thst was already so when the Romans came.
Brent Jenkins wrote: Once upon a time, we had a safe, peaceful nation.
That must have been long before the Romans came. Didn't you even have a [^] who wanted to blow up the King along with the parliament?
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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CDP1802 wrote: Thst was already so when the Romans came.
Same old left-wing argument.. any excuse to dodge the issue at hand.
I guess a few more needless deaths are required to convince you, eh? Or perhaps you'll never be convinced, no matter what happens?
Meanwhile, families like mine wait for something to be done.
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
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Brent Jenkins wrote: Same old left-wing argument
Only that I'm not so left-winged. When exactly was that time without crime, war or terrorism?
Let's take something different, like software piracy. All protection measures against it do more to annoy the honest customers and can easily be evaded by the real pirates. So what's the point?
So what do you want to do? Put cops at every corner and give them warrants to arrest everyone who does not look nice? Nobody would be any safer, but life would be a little more miserable for everyone. You know what? That's exactly the way the terrorists want to have it. They want you in fear and they want you to live under as miserable conditions as possible.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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CDP1802 wrote: Let's take something different, like software piracy. All protection measures against it do more to annoy the honest customers and can easily be evaded by the real pirates. So what's the point?
You're joking surely? Children are dead! 
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
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Even more a reason to do something effective. If that were so easy, don't you think that every single one of the policemen would not do it already? What do you expect from them? That they arrest the usual suspects?
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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I expect that in a week or so, it'll all be swept under the carpet the same as the last 100 times.
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
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Well put.
I stream all my news - so I see the variations on how it's covered throughout the world.
The BBC, EuroNews, SkyNews. There's a common thread. They've taken sides. They've influenced the populous. Leave out a little here. Diminish with some justification there. It wasn't your restaurants having families blown up at a holiday meal. Those who did it must have a right to be angry about something. Right? Cheer them on a bit and they'll leave us alone.
So long as it wasn't happening your their back yard.
Now it is.
"Peace in our time" didn't work before - it won't work now.
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That's pretty much about it Brent. I don't have a ready-made-solution. However, here are some essential starting points.
- Identify the enemy as Islamism (i.e., Islamic totalitarianism), for which terrorism is one tactic.
- Proclaim the objective superiority, imperfect though it is, of Western liberalism.
Kevin
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How about taking effective action to stop these kind of people coming into the country in the first place?
How about enforcing the rule of law equally to everyone in the UK rather than allowing exceptions for this, blind eyes for that (Sharia court, FGM, knife carrying, human traficking, drug dealing, child marriages, wholesale grooming and rape of minors, forcing the country to eat halal meat, etc)?
FFS, this is Britain! Come here and live like us if you like, you're more than welcome. But don't come here, get a free house (on welfare), free health care (on welfare), free education (on welfare), free money (on welfare) and then protest and complain about everything and try and change us to be like the very place you left behind. 
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
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Yep. Although re: the first sentence it's too late in that Islamist terrorists in the West are almost always home-grown rather than new arrivals. But it does yield the question: should we store up future problems? Hmm, perhaps not.
Kevin
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Kevin McFarlane wrote: Islamist terrorists in the West are almost always home-grown
The Manchester bomber was the son of Libyan asylum seekers. Perhaps there should be some kind of law that would hold up to 3 generations of immigrants responsible for their family's behaviour? Three strikes and deported perhaps?
We have enough home-grown problems of our own without taking in the world's lazy and/or criminal underclasses.
Now is it bad enough that you let somebody else kick your butts without you trying to do it to each other? Now if we're all talking about the same man, and I think we are... it appears he's got a rather growing collection of our bikes.
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