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I got a UPS for Christmas, and it's all been fine.
But since I got it set up, we've had no power cuts. Which is kinda disappointing really, since the whole idea was to be able to survive them.
Then ... it got windy last night - not horribly, but about 60mph. And we had a number of small powercuts! Yay!.
And all the kit the UPS was protecting was turned off, because I was asleep. 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Just curious, but unless you have a web server containing one or more extremely important sites, what could you possibly have as a private individual that is so important that you need to protect it with an OOPS??? Especially since you apparently turn it off when you're not using it anyway?
(Yeah, yeah, I know - with an attitude like that, I ought to be the President of IBM  )
[EDIT] I KNOW, I KNOW!!! When you're writing an important email to your MIL, you don't want to risk a power cut that shuts down everything so that you have to start all over. Now I get it...  [/EDIT]
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modified 23-Feb-17 4:46am.
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What do you have on your work PC that you wouldn't mind if the power failed?
It's not essential - it's just that I'd like the chance to shutdown gracefully, and save my work. Plus SSD's don't like sudden power failures either, apparently: The mysteriously disappearing drive: Are power outages killing your SSDs? - ExtremeTech[^]
And there is the NAS as well - I'd like to be able to do an orderly shut down on that as well.
The UPS also conditions the line, so overvoltage spikes are mitigated as well.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I get it, I guess I just don't see it as important enough to invest a lot of money in a UPS. Especially since we have power outages around once every year or even every other year here in Sweden (don't know how it is in the UK?). Guess I would feel different if I lived in say India where there are power outages several times a day... What can I say? I'm a cheap b*stard...
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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It's not that expensive, and if it saves hardware (SSD), data (NAS in RAID5), and work then it pays for itself. I hate re-doing work if I don't have to.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Oh, and I may have misinformed you: the UPS was switched on, but all the kit connected to it (except the broadband / WiFi router) was turned off for the night.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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No no, I got that from your OP. Hence why I didn't understand your need for it...
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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Even though the thread's old:
I have a UPS's on my systems - they're about $40-50/each - about 15 minutes worth if the desktop, monitors, and stuff are on. At all times it keeps the modem and router running. I've had it this way for literally decades.
When that power 'blinks' - like during a severe electrical storm (or some idiot hits a light pole with his/her SUV) - it keeps my system from being given a rather sudden and unpleasant kick in the groin (reboot or shutdown, depending upon the length).
And when the power really goes out? It give you time to gracefully shut down and wait for it to be fixed. Not often - but like most insurance - and it is insurance - you really don't want to use it (at best, you break even by not losing anything). My kids new the rules, too, and understood that when the battery's drained the system shuts down - so get out while you can.
When a big old tree gets knocked down across the power lines (from snow and ice or summer thunder storms) - it doesn't matter how reliable the power company is when the lines are no longer connected to where you live.
However - if the work you do is of little or no value . . .
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W∴ Balboos wrote: However - if the work you do is of little or no value . . .
Me in a nutshell...
Nah, just kidding. The WORK I do is not unimportant, but whatever I do at home in my spare time can easily be recreated...
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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In my parent's home there's a frigging 5 kW diesel generator. Why? Because they live in a isolated place, where power lines are less reliable (due to many farms and small processing factories draining power in peaks and releasing reactive power) and trees falling on power lines are common enough.
Add that the heating may be with wood but the pumps need electricity to bring water to the radiators, and in Winter temperature drops regularly lower than -15 °C and repairs usually takes dozens of hours... It's fast enough that usually equipment remains on despite not having UPS (no work done there... there isn't even a land line due to the only company reaching the area refusing to add a multiplexer since the current one is full).
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Holy crap. There are over 20 servers running in my home. Domain controllers, SAN (primary and backup with replication), cloud server, Plex media server (used by people all over the country), multiple web servers on both IIS and Apache, Jabber server, Minecraft servers (multiple), Sharepoint Wiki server for the family, home automation controllers, burglar / fire alarm processing, video camera server (and a dozen IP cameras), home entertainment center, Exchange server (also relied on by people all over the country), VOIP Asterisk server, many telephone extensions that are POE, firewalls and VPN servers and network intrusion detection and mitigation...
Not to mention desktop and laptop workstations that I don't want bouncing every time the power blips.
I'm probably missing some things, but those are just the core things running at home on a rack mounted UPS downstairs.
And I'm just a hobbyist. My next door neighbor has a much more extensive setup in his basement.
Back around 2001 I was much more careless. One power crack destroyed a RAID array and baby photos of my first born son with no backup. I learned a lot from that mistake. I don't play around now.
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The hardware could fry because of power surges. If the hardware fries, chances are you'd have to reinstall the OS. That's a royal pain in the arse.
All of my electronics are UPS-protected.
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Power stations in the Netherlands are managed via a JavaScript app? 
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Everything is run from a browser, these days.
And most electrical switches are unmanaged.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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OriginalGriff wrote: UPS
The United Parcel Service? Really? I always am a little careful when guys with brown shirts knock at my door.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
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CDP1802 wrote: I always am a little careful when guys with brown shirts knock at my door.
Why? If you've done nothing wrong, you have no reason to worry! </sarc>
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Usually when there are lightning storms I not just switch off, but unplug my machine from the power socket. (Never lost a machine but once I got blacked out when removing the second of my then brand new contact lenses).
Also lightning fascinates me, and here the storms are frequent and fierce (number of times nearby car alarms have been set off is amazing), but they rarely last more then a hour. If nothing else it's a good excuse for a break.
Sin tack
the any key okay
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You could shut the power off to the house at the panel. Just saying...
I have done this in the past to test battery backups. Eazy peezy. 
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I get dirty looks from Herself for that one.
Plus I have to work out how to set the damn clock on the microwave each time...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: Plus I have to work out how to set the damn clock on the microwave each time...
very true.
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OriginalGriff wrote: Plus I have to work out how to set the damn clock on the microwave each time...
Easily fixed: Connect it to a UPS!
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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I have been tempted to connect the Sous Vide to a UPS, but never the microwave.
We refer to it as "the cat safe" since we can put food in to cool down without Dij being able to get at it.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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You're lucky with only a cat, my daughters got birds (cockateals), they chew anything - particularly cables - especially the [expensive] fiber optic type (soft as crap too).
- but that's still not the worst though (covered the cables up):
1. can't house train blimmin birds, and even less
2. can't get teenage kids to clean up in any reasonable timeframe.
Sin tack
the any key okay
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Time for cockateal soup? 
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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