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The profits might be a bit low by then...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I had a look but unfortunately I have to get them off a UK server which is running late for me!!
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Sorry. Didn't realise there was a posting time. I remember for next time...
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Petty Theft
Nope, don't bother, I don't wear a coat. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan Neely wrote: Nope, don't bother, I don't wear a coat.
Yes, but we can back you up to the gates of hell.
What we got here is a failure to communicate
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An all-girl version might be called "Petty in Pink".
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Just take your petticoat...
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I'm still recovering from a hardware failure at our cloud host's datacenter one week ago that took the disk drive with it. There was a backup of our website folder tree but not...wait for it...of the drive. Naturally, when I was told there was a backup that was being restored to the drive I assumed the drive was being restored from the backup.
I became suspicious that something was amiss when the sysadmin asked me twice how the web server settings would get restored, and looked puzzled when I replied they were on the drive, hence on the backup, and therefore when the restore was complete we need only restart the web server and voila! Well, the truth came out when the restore (such as it was) completed and I checked for key services used by the web application and found they were missing.
The takeaway: make no assumptions about backups whether hosting is in-house or managed. Ask specific questions and get specific answers.
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So... Your cloud provider uses a system that isn't even slightly fault tolerant, and they don't even do basic backups?
Why are you still with them?
I wouldn't trust them to store a Mars bar, much less mission critical data!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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We're in the process of moving to managed hosting with another provider. My point about asking specific questions about backups still applies though. Your data, your responsibility.
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Absolutely agreed.
This is one reason why I don't go near the cloud! 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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When you're done with the migration I believe people would appreciate if you share the providers name with us. It's good to know for the future.
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That's pathetic. Cloud hosting is expensive!
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Certainly is when you pick the lowest bidder! 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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This wasn't a case of choosing the lowest bidder and getting what you pay for. This was a case of making (not entirely unreasonable) assumptions and being disappointed with the result. This experience has taught me to be clear about the details of hosting plans, including any operational concerns.
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Cloud hosting is indeed expensive.
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OriginalGriff wrote: Mars bar
mmmm.... now you've got me wanting one....
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What provider was dense enough to do this very stupid thing?
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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I'm not going to name names, at least until we move to our new provider. I will simply repeat "make no assumptions, ask questions".
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That phrase is true in every aspect of life. Never assume!
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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I assumed you'd say that.
Jeremy Falcon
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What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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Do they have "Tele" somewhere in their name?
Just asking as last week one of the hosts of our "cloud" provider went down and we lost all VMs on that host; and previously they've taken our stuff offline to do scheduled maintenance.
We're now looking elsewhere.
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No "Tele" in the provider's name.
Will have a new provider in a month or two. This will be "managed" hosting. I don't deal with the contracts but I've made those who do aware of the need to know exactly what "managed" means.
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