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Hello, Android user here. I have a Windows phone at work. It doesn't have service, I just develop on it occasionally. And I like it a lot. It's years ahead of Apple's design in my opinion. So why do I use Android personally? Because I am completely stuck in their ecosystem. 'Stuck' may be a bad word as I like their products. But I use GMail, Calendar, Music (I pay for this), Drive (I pay for extra storage), Docs, Sheets, YouTube, Hangouts, Books, Photos (every photo I've ever taken I have uploaded), and Voice. Almost all of those daily. In fact, I have NO SMS provider on my phone and solely use Google Voice/Hangouts for SMS/MMS.
Microsoft can't offer this. And as always they were years late introducing their phone (and tablets). Yeah it's nice, but it would be a nightmare for me to switch ecosystems at this point.
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I had a Windows Phone 7 (which was supported up to 7.5 then I was left with an obsolete device), it was that phone that convinced me to move to an iPhone (and begin my gradual switchover to Apple) - after years of resistance
I hated that I couldn't see how much battery or signal I had without swiping down at the top of the screen all the time, then having it disappear again after a few seconds. Very frustrating when you're trying to send a text from a moving train!
I was amazed that the SharePoint app didn't work with SharePoint on Windows 7, that the YouTube app was a link to the mobile website, that I couldn't get all the common apps that my wife was using on her iPhone - basically it was pretty much useless. Added to which it broke after two weeks when it encountered a couple of grains of sand in my pocket.
Perhaps on Windows Phone 8 they improved all of this, but by then it was too late for me - and probably quite a few other potential customers.
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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It looks like Google was miffed about the lawsuits slapped on it by Microsoft.
I would have thought that Microsoft might have been able to pay Google to develop a version for Windows Phone, although I'd imagine the price would have been steep. It still would have probably been worth the price anyway.
It's crap when things you've done to others come back to bite you on your backside
Windows Phone currently has that familiar feeling around it that many Microsoft products (even some good ones) have had shortly before they're dropped.
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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I bought Office 365 (1) and I get 1 terabyte of storage for each user and all of the Office applications. My Windows account is my login for my computer, email, Office, one drive - and it is all synchronized. I'm sure you've the same available.
Anyways, I thought the Office 365 was an excellent deal - especially with all that storage.
I guess that applies to the Windows Phone in that the one or two times I needed to see something on my One Drive I could just pop it open and know it would be there.
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1: 1 year subscription for 5 people $99.00
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Nothing really holds you to switch to MS Outlook. You will have Outlook, calendar, address book that is linked to LinkedIn, Skype, Facebook, Twitter. You can easily upload pictures and any documents into OneDrive. You also will have Xbox games. Plus you can use Reading List application to create bookmarks and access them from any Windows devices. Music service is available too.
The list is going to be very long to continue...
In my opinion, the Windows Phone is being hardly accepted at consumer level simply because of bad marketing and lack of device selection. Go to any mobile store here in Canada and you will hardly find any Windows Phone devices.
Ask any sale person what services are available from Windows Phone platform - they do not know. Ask advice what to buy - the answer is Apple or Android. Plus ask your IT for BYOD - most corporations does not support WP.
SergoT
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They missed that train. I agree with you on the tiles concept, AND that the nokia are good phones, well-served by the OS.
But I would never buy one ! Android has pretty much all you need, mostly for ... free. If I want to change my phone brand, I am not limited to Nokia, but to everything but Nokia and iFruits.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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I'll soon be switching over from Android to WP. Android is way too annoying, it crashes every few hours, voraciusly eats up RAM and it isn't responsive - I managed to lose phone calls because the phone didn't unlock in time (15 seconds to unlock????). And it's a high end phone...
Apple isn't for me - I don't like their interfaces, nor their ways of locking your phone as if it is theirs, and it costs way too much for below-par hw specs. And I hate Apple fan boys and iTunes.
WP on the other hand... has Nokia as producer and each Nokia phone I had was reliable and functional, and every person I heard with WP would never chang back to Android or Iphone, so that's my choice
Geek code v 3.12
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++*
Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Erm...my tablet is two years old, and Android.
My phone is a few months old, and Android.
Neither of them has ever crashed.
The phone unlocks in no time at all.
My PC crashes more often than my Android devices!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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So you've not turned them on yet, is what you're saying?
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Well, I took them out to dinner, and then...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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It will take me the better part of the day to get that out of my head.
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My work here is done...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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3 phones, one low-end - to throw away after a few months. Two High-end (over 600 € each) and they lasted as peformant for no more than a year... And they drive me crazy! So I'll try WP.
Geek code v 3.12
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++*
Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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I have been using a Samsung Galaxy s1 for more than three years now without any problem.
I have been using an Acer Liquid for more than one year without even one glitch or slowdown.
Not sure what you are actually doing with your phones...
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Possibly NOT taking them out to dinner?
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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My colleagues were standardized on some kind of Samsung, and Androlag hit them hard:
- incoming call without the green button
- so responsible red/green buttons that the icons below them were started after calls
... and the coming soon updates.
In these days 4+4 cores are enough for Androlag to be useful. Try the low end if you dare One-core 10" tablet + Android 4.0 + half year use + 4 newspaper app = memory use crosses 50% and the 4-5 seconds lag comes.
Android is everything bad you told about Microsoft, just gloryfied.
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Totally agree, my first Smartphone was an android, and I really hated that, I throw it to trash before 3 weeks, I missed all incoming calls, and the store is full of useless apps.
I actually have WP, and all my family gradually changed to it. It can control my entertainment systems (Xbox 360 and Xbox One), Cortana is awesome, and in the job is the best tool.
Just a funny story, last week my wife's family lost when coming to home for new year holiday, they have android and apple devices, and they can't find the address in gps, WP with Here Drive comes to the rescue.
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I totally would like to agree to your concept and your mindset. A few days ago, my girl had to buy a mobile so I suggested her to get a Windows Phone instead of Android, because I really think Windows Phone is a good OS for mobile devices too, although I, myself still have Android.
So, she bought Microsoft Lumia 535, which is a great cell phone. But, what stopped me from buying the same mobile phone was their support for third-party applications, or offline installation of applications. I tried to create an application for her mobile phone as a congratulations for her new mobile... but all in vain! They require me to create an account, then upload the app to the market (store what ever they call it) and then it would require her to save the application in the SD card and then store will check for that signature over market and all that kind of thing. Then it will install the app. Wow! That caused me, to stick to Android... I am staying with Android now... So, I would reject your suggestion. Windows Phone is not a good phone for us, the developers! Unless you're Bill Gates of course.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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You have no idea what you are saying. If you had said account, you could register the device as a development device and simply deploy to it for "testing".
Same as Android, although they do not force you to get an account to deploy to a device afaik.
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Agree, I have 4 apps developed by me in my own WP phone, I didn't need to install, just debug directly on phone, and then there is.
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The problem with it is that the Microsoft got into the business to cut a share of the money - they do not believe in it and you the customer...The day it will change Window Phone (or other hardware-products) will take their deserved place...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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The smart phone OS market already has 2 hugely successful platforms that dominate market share and mind share - in order for a new platform to gain any real traction it needs to leapfrog the older platforms by a significant margin. It can't just be equal or even a little bit better.
Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.
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Or they could give us high end phones for very low prices.
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They have to make a profit or the shareholders, board and employees will doom them.
You can either make it in the hardware while giving away the software (Apple) OR make it in the downstream software and ads (Google Android) - while letting the hardware folks (HTC, LG, Samsung, Motorola) try to give away the hardware (see recent profit numbers for Android phone makers).
Microsoft (after buying Nokia) is situated more like Apple in this space so I doubt they can give away the hardware.
Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.
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