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Probably, but try and buy something from them that doesn't require paypal as the only means of payment process or ""authorisation". 
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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That's a problem with the ebay business model. They take a cut of the price, but not of the shipping fees. Sellers, of course, then make their products cheap and raise the shipping & handling to make their money.
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You are so correct, absolutely useless, no time for them, nothing but trouble.........wait, that doesn't sound right.
In fact, I have had no issues with them ever. Much rather put my faith in them, than giving some random my CC details.
But that is not what you want to hear is it!
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DaveAuld wrote: But that is not what you want to hear is it!
No! Don't you have a helicopter to catch?
DaveAuld wrote: You are so correct, absolutely useless, no time for them, nothing but trouble.........wait, that doesn't sound right.
In fact, I have
had no issues with them ever. Much rather put my faith in them, than giving some random my CC details.
But do you use them? I have bought multiple dozens of things off the internet over the years giving my Credit Card to randoms and never had an issue.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Michael Martin wrote: Don't you have a helicopter to catch?
Not until Tuesday, then I'm homeward bound.
I use Paypal all the time, especially handy so you don't have to have your credit card to hand. I have only had two or three problems in my credit card owning history and these were recticfied by the issuing company.
I used to know my primary credit card number, issue and expiry dates and cvc code off by heart, but my memory is too full of other cr@p now that I would need to go get it if I needed it.
I also like how I can choose which payment method the funds get pulled from, i.e. credit card, paypal balance or direct from bank, depending on what I am buying.
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Michael Martin wrote: just want some CPian's to feed me bullsh*t as to why I should embrace PayPal
Nope can't help, never have, never will use them if I can possibly help it.
Michael Martin wrote: that will save me 38.5% per year
Of what - if 38.5% of $100 then it is not worth getting shafted by them!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: Of what - if 38.5% of $100 then it is not worth getting shafted by them!
USD$96.00 versus USD$156.00 and that is the current rate. I only expect prices to go up.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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PayPals business model is accusing random people of fraud so they can freeze their accounts. They can then just take the money, because it's impossible to ever get an account unfrozen.
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They froze my account once, because there was some problem with my ID - never did get to the bottom of exactly why. But they unfroze it within a week when I proved I was who I said I was. I'd rather they did it that way than let people impersonate me!
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You're lucky they didn't just find an other excuse to immediately re-freeze it. You're probably just a buyer then? With not that much money in the account?
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No, I've sold a few things on FleaBay which means you have to use them, but I don't like the percentage cut they take, or the way they are so rabidly on the side of the buyer, even you can prove delivery to a lying elephant...never lost the money or the goods, but it's been unnecessary hassle at times.
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Very lucky then. Buy a lottery ticket 
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2.9% is too much? Or do you mean that they take anything at all?
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2.9% is too much for the simple service they provide (and then FleaBay take their cut as well...)
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It's a necessary evil, I would rather give/trust my credit card info with one company then to entrust to multiple.
For some strange reason, OK I'm strange Steppenwolf's The Pusher[^] lyrics come to mind in this case.
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I had to talk their merchant services folks about something - the phone menu was one question, after pressing "2" I immediately got connected to a live person, and she was intelligent and helpful and not Indian outsourced to some third world country. So, I have nothing to complain about.
Marc
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I use PayPal all the time for both personal purchases and business sales. I've done that for about 10 years now and never had an issue.
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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I discovered the major downside to PayPal recently.
I was perusing NAS boxes, found one I liked at a good price, but had to add it to the cart to see what delivery would be (b*stard sons of camel herders for doing that but advertised price was $40 cheaper than closest I'd found).
When I saw that delivery was free, and I was looking at the payment screen, I had a choice.
Go upstairs, get my wallet, take credit card and painfully enter details, or click the PayPal button.
Net difference to me for that transaction - a flight of stairs, and the knowledge that I would forget to put my wallet back and have all the buggery that ensued vs clicking a button.
So I clicked the button and bought it.
I suddenly realised that, had I had to go get my CC, I would probably have carried on investigating to make sure I had the best deal.
(I did, subsequently, and couldn't find it cheaper, so worked out this time - but the point remains, it makes it easier to spend money.)
MVVM # - I did it My Way
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Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011
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(That's an 'M')
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The email address is great Michael.
PayPal don't send any random emails except for an occasional policy UPDATE and an occasional marketing thing.
I do get a lot of pretend (Phishing) PayPal emails though.
I haven't had a Telstra bill for years so the lingering hatred has faded for me.
I have used PayPal for years, both as a buyer and a seller, I don't mind the fees and I have never had a problem.
Here's the bullshi*t reason to make you feel a bit better:
It is easy and fast.
(and you may save a few bucks. Invest any savings in some p*ss for the weekend. It works on my machine.)
"Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980
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grralph1 wrote:
I'll have to start a new thread later to advise the address I used for PayPal.
grralph1 wrote: I haven't had a Telstra bill for years so the lingering hatred has faded for me.
1998 for me and I still hate them with a vengeance.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Maybe hatred management therapy is in order?
I have needed both hatred and anger management therapy but have been too scared too seek it, due to worrying about killing the therapist.
The solution was to neglect my Coopers Sparkling Ale solution and to use PayPal to purchase (That's Bullsh*t but sounds right in this thread) God's own drink.
The best of them all.
Coopers Double Stout.
It sh*ts on Guinness and all the others.
It is the best.
I still hate Telstra, but quite frankly, I don't care quite as much any more. Especially after all those years and assisted by a few Cooper's Stouts.
This is not a boutique wanker alternative. They started out in 1862.
The only thing that rivalled that was when I put down a home brew using a cooper's stout mix and I put two of them in the barrel instead of one.
It frothed all over the floor, but it was the closest thing to the real thing.
So drink some Coopers Stout and hate with happiness. ( or just rant on like I have just done.) 
"Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980
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grralph1 wrote: Coopers Double Stout.
Do you mean Coopers Nest Extra Stout?
The best is Coopers Special Old Stout. Haven't seen it for about 7 years back when I ran a pub. Bought me a few cases at wholesale and put them away. They improved immensely in the bootle. Unfortunately I couldn't wait like I wanted and they went within 6 months.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Michael Martin wrote: have something I need (OK, want not need, but shut up and stop interrupting my rant)
and what is this thing you need/want ?
B
MCAD
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