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I didn't ditch my XP install...
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Microsoft has made a big mistake with Vista.
I have done 3 installations on my main machine, each with varying success. The first installation would cause 2 (apparently) different network connections, each one causing different problems and really slowing down my internet service. Every time that I'd delete the copy, it would return on rebooting.
In the second instance, I installed a utility that was supposed to be Vista compatible but always seemed to run into problems. What happened to the backward compatibility philosophy? I don't expect something that worked on Win 98 to work on Vista, but something that works on XP should, without flaw. So far I have found about a dozen of my favorite software packages that are incompatible, most likely because of the Aero graphics.
My third try, I made a concerted effort to not install anything that wasn't 100% compatible. All device drivers were good, but the computer was slower than I expected. It turns out that my 6 month old nVidia card with 256 mb memory was insufficient for the Aero graphics. I bought a newer card with a faster GPU and the computer is much better.
Sometimes when opening Outlook it freezes. This is not an unknown problem and I've seen it happen with XP. My guess is that Outlook hits a snag whilst trying to synchronize with Hotmail. Normally this is solved by killing the Outlook process and restarting the application. In XP the Task Manager is quick to pop-up and allow you to delete. I have waited up to 3 minutes for the Task Manager in Vista, but most of the time I've hit the reset button first. How did Microsoft ever let Vista get released without a quick responding task manager?
There are numerous other problems, but not all is bad. Some of the mechanisms, while irritating, are better for security purposes. Sure it's annoying to be asked if I want something to install or to be asked if it's OK to use administrative privileges, but the risk of a virus outbreak outweighs the inconvenience.
The bottom line for me is that Vista wasn't ready for prime time and therein lies the problem. Every time I turn around there is something new in development. If I could give any advice to Microsoft it would be slow down. In less than 5 years we're already beta testing .NET Framework 3.5 and many developers are still at version 1.1. Meanwhile some of the bugs in ASP.Net 2.0 go unresolved.
Frankly, if IIS 7.0 and DirectX 10 were available for Windows XP there is no question that I'd be re-installing Windows XP.
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MythicalMe wrote: How did Microsoft ever let Vista get released without a . . .
This quote should answer your questions:
"We're Microsoft. We don't give a damn. We don't have to!"
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
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If those are the only two things keeping you..
There are no proper games that are DX10-only anyway, not yet (as far as I know).
I'd just go back to XP.. (I did..)
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We already know that nobody likes Vista... Should be something like ,"How much has Vista ruined your life". With a scale starting at 5 and going to 10.
Hogan
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lol
Agreed.
Yesterday, Vista told me a text file was -65000 bytes.
I suppose some bugs are suBtle
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You need to copy and paste quite a lot of "Lorem ipsum.."-nonsense-text into the file to just make it empty...
Let's think the unthinkable, let's do the undoable, let's prepare to grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after all. Douglas Adams, "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency"
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Oh yeah I agree!
I have developed a tool for my own usage (everything that I might need when using my computer) since early windows 98.... and it is about 20,000 lines of code....
Up to now, it ran on all windows, but on VISTA, it cannot run!
I installed vista, THEN I installed my tool, it didn't run --> I deleted vista!!
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I have had little or no problems with running any of my software. Have you considered that your tool wasn't following the guidelines. And I'm not talking about specific Vista guidelines but ones that have been there for a while. If your program had followed the guidelines it should work on Vista very easily. With a little additional tweaking you can also get around the UAC irritation also.
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I don't think there were every any guidelines for Windows development that you could take seriously. I remember once reading in a MSDN artical "you should avoid writing to the registry too much". MS apps themselves broke that one, writing kbs to the registry with wild abandon.
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but that would be biased
Actually, I voted yes.
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snorkie wrote: We already know that nobody likes Vista...
Who is "we"? Certainly not me, I've been developing in it for over 9 months now and I'm very happy with it.
Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscripti catapultas habebunt
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John Cardinal wrote: Who is "we"? Certainly not me, I've been developing in it for over 9 months now and I'm very happy with it.
Me too, I have been developing on vista during the past 6 months. Besides of some initial problem, I'm quite happy too. I don't see it as worse than XP (I may be wrong).
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Not that much bad that one should hate it!
Well, the prob with me is the size of its installation..
Jwalant Natvarlal Soneji BE IT, India
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Looks like you're wrong. The yes/no options are almost equal in the poll at this moment.
WM.
What about weapons of mass-construction?
"What? Its an Apple MacBook Pro. They are sexy!" - Paul Watson
My blog
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Definitely.
Or how much do they have to pay you, when you have to program on that.
Or do you think the Service pack 1 is going to change something
Cheers
You have the thought that modern physics just relay on assumptions, that somehow depends on a smile of a cat, which isn’t there.( Albert Einstein)
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We can just assume that "I haven't yet used Vista enough to make a call"
means no as well
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snorkie wrote: How much has Vista ruined your life
How much it has disturbed the tranquility of the current system?
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Let's wait and see what the poll says. I think it's time we ditch the "everyone hates Vista" and get a real idea of how well it's being accepted
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Chris,
You're right, there are quite a few people out there that do like Vista. I'm not one of them. One of the things that drives me nuts about each new operating system from Microsoft is the new interface. I understand the current XP interface just fine. Then the new one comes out and they change the look and feel of it. I understand that things need to change or we would still be stuck in DOS or Windows 3.1, but I wonder how much better the new interface makes things. One of the first things I noticed (and I do use Vista for testing at work) is the renaming of "Add or Remove Programs" to "Programs and Features". It took me several minutes to find this. It makes me wonder what other things I can't find cause they changed the name of it. The functionality seems to be the same.
I could go on, but I'm sure you have heard it all before. I'll eventually adapt, but I would prefer a more consistent interface while bringing me new features.
Hogan
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