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A typical example for the survey. That explains, I think.
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It beats law, business, or the military in my view.
To paraphrase and embellish the old joke about why lawyers should replace rats in lab animal experimentation, there *are* things that rats (& most programmers) won't do...
-- Dave
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If someone really "should" be a professional developer, they'll probably find that out without other people's advice. I think it makes more sense to introduce someone to the world of computer programming, and let nature take its course.
:josh:
My WPF Blog[ ^]
Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.
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There are great chances that a good developer can become a Lead or an Architect in near future.
Best Regards,
Mushq
Mushtaque Ahmed Nizamani
Software Engineer
Ultimus Pakistan
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The chance may be little in my country, because there are so many programmer and what they do is only code writing. Their leader is just 5 years older than them, and their leaders has leaders too.
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My wife works for herself as an environmental consultant. What she wants to do, nobody wants to pay her for it. So I'm trying to talk her into a career where she could actually earn some money. Then she could work for environmental companies and feel better about herself.
It hasn't worked yet, so I'll have to keep supporting her.
Hogan
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Women can be developers? Based on all my classes and work environments I thought that was just a myth.
Darroll
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Of course they can, my girl friend is a developer, and she does well.
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I honestly only know one female developer, she now works in real estate.
Darroll
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OK - my wife is going to hunt you down for this one. She's been a professional developer for 10 years now.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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Wasn't meant to be sexist, I just thought we drove off any female developers.
I remember the first intro to computing class was 50/50 male to female. Logic and design class was 70/30 male to female. My first C++ class had 1 female. The follow on C++ course had 0 women, and every other CS class had 0 after that. Now every job I have had was all male teams.
I was almost beginning to think they were like unicorns, only a myth.
Darroll
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The Steve Rule[^]: On a given software developer team, there are more man named Steve than there are women.
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Now the question is: Why is that?
Darroll
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In our development team, it is 50/50.
I think some factors can have impact on the ratio.
1. The interests of ladies. They may not have interests on software development, this kind of work sometimes looks boring, only working with code, I am afraid not every lady likes it.
2. The acceptance of the society. It is obvious not every company would like to take ladies as their developers.
YY
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Where do you work and on what type of product? I'd really like to know how your company managed to get a 50/50 split.
Darroll
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In China. Our team mainly develops test software. I think that the key point that we can have a 50/50 split is our company is open to accept ladies as developers, I don't really think that our company mananged to have this 50/50, it is just an occasion. Our company is a western company. Sorry I can't talk a lot about our company because it is not allowed according to the contract.
YY
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Until that pale, calm, a bit awkward girl went nut about a piece of someone elses C code.
At that point I've known her for four years already.
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When asked this question I advise everyone to get real world business experience first. Knowledge of business principles, culture, accounting and customer relations are equally or more important than technical knowledge. Unless you work for a company that sees IT as a profit center rather than a cost center, you will be valued by how well you can create business solutions.
We have all worked with people that have passed multiple certifications but were not capable of creating a usable solution to a problem. The wiz-bang coding we all admire because of the complexity or uniqueness is absolutly worthless if it doesn't solve problems in the real world. This is how utility writers and font designers are born.
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If they are from (small) city other than Banglore, Hydrabad,Pune, Delhi , Mumbai etc ..
Where there is lots of IT Companies and Jobs.
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Gaurang Shah 033 wrote: If they are from (small) city
But they can migrate to the bigger cities and furthermore a good developer can earn by working on some online projects.
Best Regards,
Mushq
Mushtaque Ahmed Nizamani
Software Engineer
Ultimus Pakistan
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...I don't want developer-wannabe relatives nagging me with their endless coding questions too.
The worse is those who ask you something on messenger and expect you to have instant answers...so you start asking a couple of questions to figure out exactly what it is they're trying to accomplish, and they take a solid 7-8 minutes between replies 'cuz they're being distracted by their TV on their end as they're typing...and of course they don't wanna do this over the phone, 'cuz they "feel they're bothering you" if they call you...
Think I'm bitter?
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I SOOOOO understand you on that one....
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Yepp... That's a problem...
May be you need to set "I'm too busy" status in IM?
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Want to be happy - do what you like!
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This one has been around the traps for a while - the 'help with my pc' thing. Just get yourself a standard schedule of charges, and get it well known amongst friends and relatives.
For instance:
- operating system reinstall or similar : carton of beer
- Virus removal or restore of accidentally deleted files : sixpack of beer
- accompany to shop for assistance with buying new computer : lunch afterwards
The other condition is that you don't make house calls - all computers must be dropped off/collected from your house.
You mightn't drink beer, but there's surely something else you can use. You can always swap it for chores you don't like doing, like mowing the lawn or washing your car.
My point is : if you don't feel you can charge money, at least make them swap something of value to you, or spend an equivalent amount of time helping you out.
Most people will be happy to come good, if they expect something for nothing, then, well they need a lesson in how the world works, and tell them to take it to a shop. In fact, I find people are happier getting you to do something if they know you are being rewarded for your time. Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got a carton of Stella Artois I need to put in the beer fridge...
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