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Family stopped asking me about 10 years ago.
They started asking my older son (who was 10 at the time).
Took another 2 years to get the neighbors to ask him first.
Now that my younger son is about to start college, I'm moving, 'cause I'm not about to start helping everyone again!
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I actually got the opposite idea, I pass them on to my dad now. Sure he knows less about computers and is more likely to f*ck their hardware/software/life up. But he is at least willing to do so.
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Jonny Newman wrote:
But he is at least willing to do so.
Where there's a will there's a way! 
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Great isn't it! I've found exactly the same - funny thing is, my Dad loves it! I have to leave the room however, as some of the things he comes out with are pretty scary, or would be if it was my pc he was talking about  . I keep my laptop well away from him now!
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It is sooooooooo anoying!!!
Always the same questions:
- My computer doesn't boot, why?? And what shall I do now??
- My computer always shuts down after x minutes, why?? And what shall I do now??
An my favourite question:
- Do you know how I could do this in microsoft word??
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Ungi. wrote:
My computer doesn't boot, why?? And what shall I do now?
Tell them to try plugging in the power cord.
Ungi. wrote:
Do you know how I could do this in microsoft word??
Yes, but why should I tell you?
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oh yes, you are right. i think i am really too kind and too nice and read the f**** manual and do it for them in long evenings...
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>> Always the same questions:
>> - My computer doesn't boot, why?? And what shall I do now??
>> - My computer always shuts down after x minutes, why?? And what shall I do now??
My brother in law lives half a world a way, and he still calls me ....
= distance is irrelevant
>> An my favourite question:
>> - Do you know how I could do this in microsoft word??
My favourite answer, yes, but not in this old version.... (They always got the wrong version...)
And one more thing... When I say: just click here, and here and it's fixed... thats when the screen goes black, or the harddisc goes eeeeeeeeeeek! or this funny smoke poors out the back of the computer.
Why would one volontarily submit to such risks, with no insurance and no pay.. no way.
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1. I was once called by my fathers friend to install editplus.
2. I was once called by my friend who lives 45 min drive from my place to setup his desktop wallpaper (apperently he had not activated his active desktop)
3. I was once called to format her floppy coz she was afraid that data on the floppy will be lost (because of the message that pops up) apparently she needed nothing that was on the floppy.
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 Don't ya just luuuv computer illiterate people?
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Aaron Eldreth wrote:
Don't ya just luuuv computer illiterate people?
no! 
I'll write a suicide note on a hundred dollar bill - Dire Straits
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I'd hate them too, but my mother is computer illiterate. 
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I don't mind having fixing people's machine if I have the time, but it's the "help us do our homework" request that I'm tired with. I have an uncle who's working with kids, and every now and then, I get a request from them to help his protege's with their programming homework. I always hope for the best (as in help with parts of the program) but usually it's the worst (as in help me write the program)
"if you vote me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine" - Michael P. Butler.
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I know what you mean. I got friends that call me up and want me to do their programming homeworks for them. there's no shame in people. Isn't they supposed to do their homeworks to actually learn something?
Patrik Svensson
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Sometimes, I have even been asked to do their homework but getting pay out of it, and in most of the time you know what, I accepted such offer. Am I bad or what? :-P
Sonork 100.41263:Anthony_Yio
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To each his own, I suppose. I've been offered payment now and then to do their project, but I just can't stand these people passing, so I usually reject their offer.
"if you vote me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine" - Michael P. Butler.
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Kinda understand,it is their carrier ahead that they are screwing up though.
Sonork 100.41263:Anthony_Yio
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In high school I was taking a programming class (VB ) and the teacher assigned a little project (choose one out of two) due a week later. I could program then, but nobody else could, so everybody started asking me to "help" them (help=do it all for me.)
So I decided I would charge about $10 US for the easier and $15 for the more difficult. I said I would have no mercy even with those who were very close friends of mine. One project, I remember, was filling a combo box with a list of colors, and changing the form background as the list selection changed. Each project took me around 15 minutes at most.
I made over $200 that week! A very close friend of mine refused to pay me and said he would find someone else to help him. Half an hour before turning in the project, he came to me, 10 dollars on his hand, and ask me to do it for him. 
-- LuisR
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Luis Alonso Ramos
Chihuahua, Mexico
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Don't you find that....ummm...slightly unethical? 
"if you vote me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine" - Michael P. Butler.
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Just slightly 
Seriously, what part are you talking about? the doing homework for others part or the charging my friends part?
About doing homework for others, well... I didn't know it was homework, I was just being an outside consultant
And about charging my friends, well, I still did around 20, imagine if it had been free? 
And if I had just said no, probably two or three people (myself included) would have turned in the assignment.
-- LuisR
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Luis Alonso Ramos
Chihuahua, Mexico
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I am more than willing to fix any problem with people's computers - often it's bit of a pain but it seems like a nice thing to do for my friends. But there are a few scenarious that I really hate:
1. Monitors set to 60Hz - It amazes me that there are people who leave there computers flickering like this. Luckily within 30sec I can have the it up to a more healthhy 100Hz, and all is well!
2. Chicken and egg situations - Computers that are broken in a way that is really tough to fix. Like when windows has a broken file, but you can only replace it using the web - which of course you can't get to without the file. You can either 1. Drive home, and hope you can get the correct replacment onto CD or 2. Reinstall which takes _ages_
3. Computers that need tidying - This is not so much an annoyance as a time killer. I really am a perfectionist when it comes to computers! I find myself spending hours removing all the spyware, and spending ages downloading the latest patches, usually over a dialup.
4. Large downloads over dialups - And with my luck the ISP will always hang up halfway through or somthing!
But most of all
5. The Rabbit Hole effect - You find a computer, and somone who's not good at maintaining a system long term. You will fix the computer to be the tidyest, most efficient, and best set up computer in the whole town, but you just know that 3-6 months later they'll phone you again because things have fallen into ruins!
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Joel Holdsworth wrote:
Chicken and egg situations - Computers that are broken in a way that is really tough to fix. Like when windows has a broken file, but you can only replace it using the web - which of course you can't get to without the file. You can either 1. Drive home, and hope you can get the correct replacment onto CD or 2. Reinstall which takes _ages_
Never had that happen to me, but a friend of my was trying to fix a PC for his grandma (and she is a technophobic). Anyway, my friend went to download the updated driver from MS, and she didn't want him to download it because she thought that Microsoft would use the driver to take over her PC!!!
Joel Holdsworth wrote:
Computers that need tidying - This is not so much an annoyance as a time killer. I really am a perfectionist when it comes to computers! I find myself spending hours removing all the spyware, and spending ages downloading the latest patches, usually over a dialup.
I was once trying to free up some disk space on a friends PC. Just after she had gotten it, her sons installed some games onto it (MOHAA, AOK, etc.), and they put a lot of their pictures on it (they had over 5Gb of pictures) and suddenly poof! Their HDD was semi-full. Well, I looked at the system restore, and they had set it to backup 12Gb. She wouldn't let me change it.
Joel Holdsworth wrote:
Large downloads over dialups - And with my luck the ISP will always hang up halfway through or somthing!
You must have good luck.
Joel Holdsworth wrote:
The Rabbit Hole effect - You find a computer, and somone who's not good at maintaining a system long term. You will fix the computer to be the tidyest, most efficient, and best set up computer in the whole town, but you just know that 3-6 months later they'll phone you again because things have fallen into ruins!
Aaron Eldreth
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Joel Holdsworth wrote:
Monitors set to 60Hz
IIRC EU H&S regulations state a minimum of 72Hz. Obviously if this is in someone's home then they can do what they like, but if it is in an office then the standard must be complied with.
Joel Holdsworth wrote:
The Rabbit Hole effect
I know what you mean. I try to convince my dad to take more care with the stuff he installs. He is getting better but over time it still builds up.
"You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar
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People constantly ask me to fix their computer. Even for the most dumb things as: insert the cd, wait for the autorun and follow the instructions...
What they don't realize is that I (even in school) work almost 8 hours a day with that stupid computer. Therefore I don't want other peoples pc problems after work.
So when I don't know the people very well, a strong RTFM is the answer, otherwise a polite NO should do the trick...
Yes, I know, this is not very polite, but heck, I need my spare time for sleep and fun stuff...;P
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A professor knows a lot about little.
I know everything about nothing.
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sometimes it's really annoying because even as a developer you have other things to do than fixing other people PCs...
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