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Do you have Web Essentials installed? It has a "Format on enter" setting.
You may have already tried the Text Editor > HTML > Advanced > Format on paste setting, but double-check it, also.
Point being that there are multiple ways that stuff gets reformatted. I also use CodeMaid, and have seen Resharper reformat stuff, as well.
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Thanks. I don't have Web Essentials installed, I used to but didn't see the point as it didn't appear to do anything useful.
I checked the "Format on paste" setting, it was already "false".
I don't use Resharper. When I've tried it, it slows VS down to a crawl, so it's basically unusable, (I have a powerful Dell i7 laptop with 16GB RAM).
It is ridiculous though that VS needs 3rd party extensions to be tolerable. I know MS get their ass kicked on a daily basis, but you can see why! I'll install Web Essentials again and see if that makes a difference
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I've done sites with VS for years, and it's always far more difficult than using Notepad. But I've also done a few with Adobe Dreamweaver to compare them, and by far, the Dreamweaver is much easier to use to develop a working site. Unfortunately, when you pull down the site's shorts and look at the details, Dreamweaver creates a passel of the ugliest code you have ever seen, even worse than than asking Word to save a document as a web page. It's horrible! But it's easy, and these days that seems to matter to people far more than quality code.
Even though it's a PITA to use, and wastes more hours than any IDE for web development that I know of, I'm sticking with VS because in the right hands, it can make beautiful sites that work efficiently. We engineers are a bit anal about that, and I'd gladly spend 1,000 hours making the code right, than spend 100 hours creating a site that works, but can't be understood or maintained ( i.e. Dreamweaver). That's probably why nobody wants to hire me to make websites...
Will Rogers never met me.
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I just threw up a little in the back of my throat.
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Ok cool. You can write that check out to Jeremy Falcon. Thanks man.
Jeremy Falcon
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Already wrote the check to myself being as I was the first person who read the post...
Damned check bounced, tho; now I'm out $29.95 for NSF (Non-Sufficient Funds)
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When posting a message, one must click the "Post Message", which then posts *and* displays the resulting just-added message.
One can choose to read or not read the just-posted message.
Looking to become an instant millionare, I opted to read the just-posted message.
Upon doing such, I informed myself of being the first to have read the message (complete with title, mind you), of which I then wrote a check to myself.
Voila.
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How wrong thou art, for, doth not the subject read "The first person to read this...", of which, in fact, I was the first person to read it immediately upon writing it.
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In fact, I did read it.
My monkeys will attest to such.
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Simply put, I've been developing applications in Visual Studio far too long (since version 6.0) to answer whether VS 2015 makes anything easier. However, this question can possibly reveal some great insights. For example, who should answer this question? Are the people asking this question able to provide feedback to the VS team?
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"Easier" is a relative term and liable to multiple interpretations. I still find it hard to do Web development, it seems wrong somehow. The web has encouraged the decline of civilization as we know it. I used to think Sir Tim Berners-Lee was a great man but now I have my doubts. It's a bit like the invention of laptops, smart-phones or even cell-phones in the first place; they seemed like a good idea at the time but the long term impacts were not considered.
COBOL on mainframe computers is all we really needed to be efficient and productive, but no, we had to go those extra steps to our ultimate doom!
I would say more but my phone just told me "I have mail"!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Forogar wrote: The web has encouraged the decline of civilization as we know it. I would put forth for you consideration that it just made it easier for you to become aware of the loathsome state of the planet and what passes for culture, refinement, education, and human endeavor.*
* Urge to eat a kitten. Urge to eat a kitten.
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Whooosh......... Ahhhhhhh
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At least if I want to use VS - for although I installed the entire VS (BS?), and jumped a few hoops, and got it installed, it finally told me it won't work for me.
Expressions 4 is fine - and I do most of that as hand-rolled, anyway. Notepad++ is in the wings, should something dastardly be unleashed from the bowels of Redmond.
<spam style="font-size:130%;font-weight:bold;">Too much update-or-else from those boys. My desktop is not a cellphone and their cellphone O/S is not welcome.
UPDATE:
Zone-Alarm will handle it under the following conditions:
- Change the exisiting ZA settings for AVG (deleting them is easiest).
- Set the Advanced options slider to asks you before allowing
- Set the other Advanced options slider security level to highest.
The second two procedures are required so that you can allow in update if you wish and ZA doesn't automatically pass it on some internal white-list.
[this was wrong post to post the update]
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Funny, I use VS (2013/2015) 8-10 hours a day, at least 5 days a week, and I can't complain. I maintain at least 4 websites that are currently in production, and a plethora of other applications.
I hazard to guess that you are a hobby programmer, or someone who just likes to complain about Microsoft, or, you are just doing it wrong.
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Hobby Programmer? No.
Complain About MS? Well - who can help themselves?
Doing it Wrong? No.
I went through the install on a Win7 SP1 machine and followed every request (except to upgrade to Win10). It simply told me I couldn't access the stuff. It's a while ago - not that long. I'd hoped for something to replace Expressions that was aware of HTML5 and CSS3. Also, may something that played nicer with .php.
An adventure I'm not looking forward to - in fact, will find a way to duck out of if humanly possible, is when all their applications live in their cloud. And they can do whatever they want - whenever they want - and not even pretend to ask.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Complain About MS? Well - who can help themselves? Me. Microsoft has built the best line of products in the world and for many years has allowed me to make a good living implementing and improving upon their products. No other vendor comes anywhere near in the impact Microsoft has had on the world.
Your code has bugs. Everyone's code has bugs. I wonder if your customers curse you out the same way you curse out Microsoft.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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RyanDev wrote: Microsoft has built the best line of products in the world and for many years Yea - but that was quite some time ago.
RyanDev wrote: for many years has allowed me to make a good living implementing and improving upon their products. I suppose an MD could make the same arguement (and a better living) substituting "Microsoft" with "Syphilis".
RyanDev wrote: No other vendor comes anywhere near in the impact Microsoft has had on the world. Keeping in our medical domain, much the same could be said about Malaria.
RyanDev wrote: our code has bugs. Everyone's code has bugs It's not the bugs I complain about. It's there freakin' attitude that they will make the decisions and you'll be happy to say "yes sir - and would you like me to jump, too?". Forced updates for Windows 10, for example: it's not a bug, it's a serious invasion of my private property.
You do understand the concept of "private property", as in mine - I paid for it. For that matter, consider Vista - how it was going to make people buy huge amounts of new software because it was going to support them. Win8 - another thing of beauty - if you want an elephanting cell phone instead of a PC.
If I return to your "bug" note, however, the first delight with that was MSDOS 6.0, which destroyed the data on many a hard drive because of the defective disk compression component. They knew and released it anyway. And that trend has continued.
So - I, and apparently no small number of others will do our upgrade from Win7 to Linux. Before closing the door on my 'out', I'll leave them a thank-you fart.
But, you're making your money, so WTF!
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W∴ Balboos wrote: but that was quite some time ago. Who is making better software than Microsoft now?
W∴ Balboos wrote: Keeping in our medical domain, Don't. It doesn't work.
W∴ Balboos wrote: It's there freakin' attitude that they will make the decisions and you'll be happy to say "yes sir - and would you like me to jump, too?". Forced updates for Windows 10 Then why don't you complain about the other 10,000 vendors that also do forced updates?
W∴ Balboos wrote: and apparently no small number of others will do our upgrade from Win7 to Linux. Good luck. I can't imagine you'll like Linux over Windows. For my last PC I got Linux to save the money and not buy Windows. Linux is terrible if you ever have a problem. Command line everything. I'll gladly pay the ~$100 for Windows. Well worth it.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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RyanDev wrote: Good luck. I can't imagine you'll like Linux over Windows. For my last PC I got Linux to save the money and not buy Windows. Linux is terrible if you ever have a problem. Command line everything. I'll gladly pay the ~$100 for Windows. Well worth it. Well, imagine a bit harder. But back to your other comments. I have fingers - command line - just like I need to do in Window for so many chores, but mostly, the $100? I have (for now) a company MSDN subscription. "It don't cost me nothin'" - The cost is in window, itself.
RyanDev wrote: Then why don't you complain about the other 10,000 vendors that also do forced updates? Not many do - and if you'd been reading in the lounge, I already did (AVG Antivirus). But guess what? I don't care about the 10,000 other imaginary vendors who follow the M$ philosophy: they don't make a dominant operating system. Who gives a damn about any fringe application?
I discovered Open Source - Libre, for example, does for me what M$Office couldn't wouldn't and opened some WP files from 'another vendor'. Does everything I need to do - and best of all . . . wait for it . . . it plays well with others!VLC is plenty good.
Your angst over the Linux command line and willingness to excuse abuse (forced updates) by using charges that others do it, too - well maybe it's because you need someone to take care of you - watch over you - and ever more often, monitor you. I think of more like this[^].
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There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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