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This is quite a statement! Can you back it up please?
Which open source tool is Visual Studio copying?
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The history you are listing is unfortunately far away from an accurate representation. My highlight is your statement towards async / await. Not only is it completely false (what is over engineered? why should it confuse more than concurrent programming without it? ...), but also you are mixing C# / language features with VS features. The VS 2002 was also far away from being minimal. 2013 also delivered a lot.
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I work exclusively with open source things at this very moment... and can honestly say, MS Visual Studio is the best IDE I've worked with. It does have it's little issues but compared to anything else out there, definitely a great product. They have been putting out a lot of useless features but that's all part of the game on the business side of things (have to put out new "features" to keep people buying).
I don't use it anymore because I work 100% within Linux at this time but I'd definitely use it again.
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VS6: Stuck with it for far too long, but it's what we had.
Embedded VS3 and VS4: used basically the same foundation as VS6. This set of tools were required to develop Windows CE and Windows Mobile programs.
2003: Passed it by, although some C++ features were added, it was more of a .Net upgrade
2005: Embedded development and desktop development were unified. The C++ compiler was much more compliant, and templates were very stable.
2008: An even better release, included C++ TR1 and other compiler improvements.
2010: Skipped it, it was slow, and no compelling C++ features for me.
2012: Got it, stronger C++ compiler, more C++11 features,
2013: Got it, even better C++ compliance, variadic templates, still no constexpr
2015: constexpr, and all but a few esoteric C++11 standards features are present.
Open-source software is a means to an end, not the end itself.
With the glut of open-source projects that exist, one needs to be careful to avoid ending up using open-sores software.
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Still stuck on Source Safe v6.0. I'll get to use VS 2015 though.
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Do what?
Jeremy Falcon
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Absolutely will go for VS2015.
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That was not one of the possible answers
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I do contract work for game studios. Only last September did I finally get a client that was using VS2012. That's been a serious PITA, since MS won't sell me a copy of VS2012, so I've been stringing out the trial periods on various versions.
I've play around with VS2013 a bit in my spare time, and I like it enough to feel fairly confident that VS2015 will be an improvement. If there's a community edition it will definitely get installed, and I expect to actually get a chance to use it for real around 2018.
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I got this rather welcome news in my inbox...
Quote: Great news! As a Visual Studio Premium with MSDN subscriber, the value of your subscription is increasing – dramatically. You will be upgraded to Visual Studio Enterprise with MSDN at the release of Visual Studio 2015 and all the features currently available in Visual Studio Ultimate, will then be available to you.
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This is one of the best news about this release!
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While some of our development work is being done in VS2012, we still have ongoing development work being done in VS2005!
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At work, I am still using VS2005. No money in the budget for an upgrade, especially for deployment of Crystal Reports. Clinical staff cannot install programs, meaning that IT staff (all three of us!) have to touch every machine, if for nothing else, to test that the installation went correctly. We have over 600 computers used by clinical staff.
Lord, grant me the serenity to accept that there are some things I just can’t keep up with, the determination to keep up with the things I must keep up with, and the wisdom to find a good RSS feed from someone who keeps up with what I’d like to, but just don’t have the damn bandwidth to handle right now.
© 2009, Rex Hammock
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With only 3 of you, you might qualify for the VS Community Edition, which is free.
VS Community Edition license is here: https://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/dn877550.aspx
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Probably not. Except for educational use or writing OSS, it's not available to "enterprise" customers: defined as >250 users or >$1m/year in revenue.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Jalapeno Bob wrote: Clinical staff cannot install programs, meaning that IT staff (all three of us!) have to touch every machine, if for nothing else, to test that the installation went correctly. We have over 600 computers used by clinical staff.
You're well beyond the point at which automated patching/installation tools would pay for themselves in time saved. As someone on the receiving end of pushed updates, MS Software Center[^] seems to work well. I've no experience with it on the admin end though.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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We will use VS only under one condition: MS removes all spy sh!t from the IDE. I DO NOT WANT any cr@py "microsoft accounts", "cloud storage", whatever. We work at product in a closed company (but we still online, of course!) and I cannot allow any network activity from VS side!
Microsoft, remove your anal inspection from my IDE!
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Well Said!!
Life is a computer program and everyone is the programmer of his own life.
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We are still using VS10 so it's time to upgrade to VS2015 immediately...
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We are a small team working side by side VS 2013 CE with VS 2015 Preview without problems (not yet using C# 6.0 new features). We will jump to VS 2015 CE when available.
Sorry for my bad English
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As an academic institution Visual Assist is the most expensive software application that we use in our research since they restructured the pricing to eliminate staff from their academic discount.
John
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I'd really like to, but unfortunately it's not in my hands. We are currently using Visual Studio 2012, and moving to 2015 will require a huge investment for our company. So while I'd love to move to the latest and greatest version, my guts tells me we won't.
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I have download the pre-release and I really like it. But as a hobby developer, the cost is too high for me. Since VS 2003, I always wait for the opportunity to get visual studio for a discounted price. Usually this is 1-2 years after RTM.
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What about the Community Edition[^]? It's available for free for individual developers and offers the same features as the Professional version, starting with Visual Studio 2013 and I'm sure there will be one of Visual Studio 2015 as well.
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I did not know that. Thanks for sharing. I knew there was a community version but I just assumed it was the new express. Express did not take add-ins however it looks like community does. That is cool, I'm going to jump right in then.
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