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I guess that makes you an expert in expertise ? ? ?
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Fortunately, it wasn't on a project. I taught myself VAX Macro Assembler.
He saw it was interesting and had me teach him: he picked it up quickly and we used to code competitively for the fun of it. Also used to hack the VAX cluster (buggy booger). Good memories.
It was with him that we took on Swords of Glass. Later, the first five or six Might and Magic.
"Time it was, and what a time it was, it was
A time of innocence, a time of confidences
Long ago, it must be, I have a photograph
Preserve your memories, they're all that's left you" - Paul Simon
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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Are you saying you helped write the early M&M games?
If so, well done - they were good for their time (and still on my current PC thanks to GOG.com  )
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OriginalGriff wrote: Are you saying you helped write the early M&M games?
Oh No! I wish!
We played as a team - just somehow the topic led me off-topic.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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I've been there. I spent all my time transferring the content of my brain and the other three spent most of their time absorbing what I told them. Upshot was that this four-man team managed to perform the equivalent of one man-day per day.
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But for a long run project, the productivity will eventually start to ramp up. Just need to spent more time to do code review with them at the beginning.
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I should have added that this was specifically a short-duration team added to my one-man project to try to reduce the development overrun. A classic case of adding manpower to a failing project (cf. The Mythical Man Month, which I had read by then).
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I'd add condition: There is enough time to include the new partner.
Or: The project is at the very beginning.
I've read "The mythical man month" when it was primary issued, so the graph of connecting the new member to the burning project is printed in the memory.
My English is permanently under construction. Be patient !!
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If it's a short thing I would stick with the dinosaur.
Even if the other guy is super smart what I really need is to move things out of my way.
In short missions coaching is not an option.
If it's a long mission then the geek guy would be definitely be the choice.
Probably not because we could change technology but it's always good to have agile people in the team.
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Posted my message "Condition to add" before seeing yours. Actually mine should be here as a reply.
My English is permanently under construction. Be patient !!
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Interesting reply, which one do you consider the dinosaur, and which one is the geek?
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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Dino is a gentile (or maybe not) way to refer to one that is super guru but on ancient tech.
It's not a bad thing if you like it and usually pays off a lot, like COBOL gurus in ancient systems!
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Since every project spreads like chewing gum the dino is out, I'm afraid 
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Could be, but still I could use the dino in the pressing stretch and get the agile guy for the long run if needed.
An approach like "Lets get this done quickly and if there's something else I'll rearrange the team"
It really depends on the scenario and project managements along with a good team leader plays an important part in this.
Of course the most logic answer is to get the savvy guy, but a team of savvy people tend not to be good.
In a team we need to have the stable guys that just do what they're told and they do it well.
It really doesn't matter if they know how to fly a plane it all that is required is to ride a bicycle.
If everybody in the team wants to make park the bike and build a rocket we're screwed 
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Ahm, may be I missed something. But show me an expert, who is unwilling to learn anything? How did he do it to an expert? 
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There are A LOT of experts but narrow minded.
They are really good at what they do and know but nothing else.
It's an option and we should respect it.
Sometimes it's also a matter of opportunities.
If someone gets stuck in a company for 20 years he will probably be an expert in that matter... but nothing else...
It's way better than the ones that say they've played with a lot of stuff but can't do anything good in any
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Not everyone went to school to learn how to program. Many "codgers" got into PL1 many years ago with no training and have never left. DotNet, huh? Cobol, duh? Java, with 2 cream, please. There are still many systems out there that need them, but try to get them into using Methodology or "Comment your code for Why you are doing", you only get "I've worked on this stuff for 20 years...". SIGH.
But as Contractors, they are making the big money...for now...
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An expert in the technology used in the current program who knows nothing of anything else and doesn't want to learn.
My opinion: People not willing to learn/update themselves are practically not suitable for this industry.
A really smart fast learner who has a vast depth and breadth of experience but doesn't know the main technology of the current project
My opinion: Syntax is gonna be different but logic of thinking depends on the people(experienced) so it does not matter about technology we can educate them 
Neither. I'll do his part of the project myself.
My opinion: Team management will not be there.But if company wants to do it so then have to.
Thanks,
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♥…ЯҠ…♥ wrote: An expert in the technology used in the current program who knows nothing of anything else and doesn't want to learn.
My opinion: People not willing to learn/update themselves are practically not suitable for this industry.
What about people who "want" to learn, but only from 9 to 5? To much of those around
It's an OO world.
public class Sander : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
}
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What I personally feel is learning does not need any timetable.
Person who is willing to learn can learn from anywhere, anything at anytime, so putting time limit is also not apt personally as well as professionally.
I learn cooking at 11 PM  , will sound crazy but what to do then only my friends will have it at half sleep and would not scold me if its not nice
Thanks,
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I agree, learning does not need any timetable (although it certainly helps to have a goal, like study x hours a week and get certified before summer).
What I meant was that some people only study during work.
I have studied a lot at home in my spare time so I could perform better at work. Luckily my attitude has not gone unnoticed. As a result my employer now pays for my Open University study.
Employers should encourage employees to study (for example by paying or raising salary) and employees should study in their own time too.
It's an OO world.
public class Sander : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
}
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 Congrats thats awesome..... people like you really deserves it.
Last point you said, I am on your side.
Cheers.
Thanks,
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Sander Rossel wrote: What about people who "want" to learn, but only from 9 to 5? To much of those around
You mean like people with families or a social life?
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There's millions of people who can study while having families and a social life.
That is no excuse for not being able to do your job. "Sorry boss, I can't keep up with our used technologies because I have a family and a social life".
That almost sounded like a Dilbert comic...
You don't have to be the top engineer, but when working in IT you know you will have to keep up and I think some, if not most, of the time you should do that at home.
It's an OO world.
public class Sander : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
}
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I would agree with the first, but as I work with a couple of people that have that approach, I can see where the attitude comes from. Complete and utter lack of investment by the company in its people.
Also its nice to see that the votes tend to be for 2nd type, but what do those guys put on CV's to get themselves hired?
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