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All above average developers are liars. I am an above average developer.
Peter Wasser
Art is making something out of nothing and selling it.
Frank Zappa
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I read your profile. Most of the above average developers I have worked with had Electrical Engineering, Physics, and Math backgrounds.
David
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Very kind. I think you are paying tribute to a good education so perhaps those of us who have it are very lucky. A big topic however.
Peter Wasser
Art is making something out of nothing and selling it.
Frank Zappa
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Your welcome, but it's only my personal observation.
David
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I mean how you going to say one is good developer?
by comparing with colleagues in a team?
by answering the question in forums & getting accepted or up votes?
by not struggling in the work?
by knowing how/when/why use the software terminology in the programming?
or by talking intellectually ![Poke tongue | ;-P](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/smiley_tongue.gif)
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judge by the satisfaction of the customer/client upon the software.
The customer/client:
- is very happy with the software: Good Developer
- is somehow happy with the software: Average Developer
- is unhappy with the software: Bad Developer
there is no perfect code to write.
another criteria to judge a developer is good or not: WTFs/Minute
http://www.osnews.com/story/19266/WTFs_m[^]
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I like WTFs/Minute concept.
Thanks
-Amit Gajjar
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One just knows...
I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.
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by producing good stuff
David
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That's right other developer does the same thing, they also produce the good stuff. I mean where you can see your self as good bad average?
Does the producing good stuff means you are good in software development?
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guess so, what's the criteria for each rating?
David
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1:1 ratio.
You did ask how I scaled...
Keep Clam And Proofread
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√(-1) 23 ∑ π...
And it was delicious.
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Oh you seem well above the average ![Poke tongue | ;-P](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/smiley_tongue.gif)
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Used to be a mighty fine programmer, made a decent living doing it but dropped out for many years and just couldn't catch back up so now below average.
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While I'm sure there's a degree of "Dunning–Kruger effect" here, as well as (among the 22% who are "well above average") a little bit of unjustified snobbery, it is actually conceivable that the survey results are accurate. It's possible that most below-average developers don't actually participate in the survey or in CodeProject in general, which would skew the results upward.
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It also depends on how you define average. It isn't unreasonable to think that a large proportion are in the middle and are similarly "good", with some at both ends that might be much, much, better or worse. The notion that the best are orders of magnitude more productive than the average is pretty much accepted, though 22% certainly don't fall into that category.
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What you are seeing is not "how much above average developers there is" but "how much above average developers there is that also read codeproject".
Developers reading about development are not that many, most work to pay the bill and go home, never reading anything.
Codeproject developers are above average developers average for that reason.
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1725 people responded (so far) to the poll out of 10 million users. Don't you think there might be some selection bias in those who choose to respond. Two points. First, the ones who respond are more likely to be the sorts of folks who are engaged in and interested in the programming community. I'd say those folks are more likely to be exceptional. Second, and perhaps more important, maybe the exceptional folks are more likely to be willing to toot their own horn than the below average folks are willing to admit to themselves that they might be in the wrong profession.
Frankly, I'm surprised the results aren't even more skewed towards the top.
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Of course, it is well known that 60% of drivers believe themselves to be of above average skill.
(And 42% of all statistics are made up on the spot.)
Ian
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Well,i feel like above average but still there is a thing to consider it.Comparing my circumstances,logic and skill with the people i knew or i worked, my mind considers mine as above average, .
But,damn sure if i would participate an world class event where some very good developers would compete then i could find myself as below average, .
Shuvro
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If more than 60% consider themselves above average than the average must be really higher !!
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Or, the below average do not participate on the Code Project! ![Wink | ;)](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/smiley_wink.gif)
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For another elephanting week of lingering self-doubt is before me.
Hey - survey makerizer . . . watch where you point that thing !
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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Nice msg
![Smile | :)](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/smiley_smile.gif) -ank
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But sadly, no one believes in the gods anymore.
I also feel like a fallen god, there is so much I don't know at this point. Now, while lack of knowledge doesn't make me a poor programmer, it does make me an unskilled programmer in a variety of areas! Ah, semantics!
Marc
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