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The government only allows IE....
(maybe that's changed, but I doubt it)
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Deveshdevil wrote: why should one compromise and not use JQuery...
There are versions of jQuery which very well support IE.
Dropping IE 7/8 support is just a bit early (it will eventually happen) and our clients won't like that idea. So currently it's a NO for us.
..Go Green..
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Many organizations still use IE6-8. As another poster mentioned, IE8 ships with Win7 which companies are still running. At the company that I work for, IE10 is banned because of compatibility issues with other mission critical applications including our vpn connection. This is not MS's fault as they don't own these products. But nonetheless, we will be on IE8 until these issues are resolved.
IE isn't a bad browser. The team @MS simply can't move as fast as independent browser companies because upgrading IE involves upgradinging other products such as SharePoint, Windows (windows authentication), and Office (web viewers). In addition, Microsoft still has to support IE6-8. The desktop market is revenue generating, the browser market isn't. As a result, a desktop market share =>90% demands that you continue to support older browsers for companies that have products built to run in those browsers. So call MS victim to their own success if you will but, there are talented developers and engineers at MS. Let us not forget who invented the technology that makes jQuery possible, and now SignalR.
I do believe you will see more separation of concerns as it pertains to IE as it has already began in IE10 and Windows 8. As evidence of what's to come, consider that you can now write Windows desktop (WinRT/Windows8) applications in HTML5 + Javascript or standard .NET.
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Just as simple as this:
If I have a business that depends on my web page, say like a webstore I should be concerned if some of my possible customers won't be able to buy from me just because my "genious" web developer thinks IE is crap.
Most web users don't even know what a "browser" is.
They just know that they have to use something to access the internet and do their thing.
It's up to us developers to make sure that their experience is as good as possible.
Personally I prefer to aim low and feed them all than aim too hight and leave some users behind.
Cheers!
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AlexCode wrote: Most web users don't even know what a "browser" is.
This is a very condescending statement. But Yes 
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AlexCode wrote: Most web users don't even know what a "browser" is.
That might be true however when they are told on the TV that their favorite angry birds game is played best on Chrome they will change. With Chrome taking the share of browsers you have to realize that many users are becoming aware of these requirements because of the "educational" commercials that google puts out.
For those that don't want to switch we always have chrome frame that html5 boilerplate[^] encourages. 
as if the facebook, twitter and message boards weren't enough - blogged
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It's pain for developers.
Cheers by,
Anand Ranjan
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IE should be considered as a p0rnographic tool.
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And miles to go before I sleep!
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IE Should be declared as a CRIME.
Any one who will be find using IE, will have to use Windows 8( only metro ,no desktop) for next 2 years. 
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I have no idea what you're talking about.
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I'm sure we'd all love to drop support for old browsers and force our customers to upgrade, but if our competitors are still supporting old browsers we have to as well.
I'm just about to start up a side project, and I don't expect to be supporting IE 8 in that. Too much work for 5.5% usage share and dropping.
Of course during my day job I'm developing for a government agency that is standardized on IE8. So, put me down for maybe 
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Might be important to add that my decision to drop IE8 support doesn't have anything to do with JQuery's support of it in the latest version.
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As long as you need to support IE8 or worse just keep serving them the larger/slower 1.x versions while giving new ones 2.x. The intent is for the two branches to remain feature compatible until IE8 becomes dead enough that JQuery can abandon the 1.x branch entirely.
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The CP forums don't bump (threading is strictly determined by the data of the first post in the thread). That leaves the green upvote arrow as the only way to express "Yes I agree" without writing anything non-trivial.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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IE6-8 will still be supported via jquery 1.x (which will remain feature compatable with 2.x) for the next few years. 2.x is their semi-decrapified version that's smaller/faster for use with newer browsers. Jquery's recommendation is to either stay with 1.x or add a conditional to select which version is delivered based on the browser until you're able to drop legacy IE.
Don't feel bad; you're in good company. Maunder appeared to be confused[^] as well and needed schooled[^] in what is actually going on.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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I will be including the 1.9 series with conditional includes for the older IE browsers until those browsers are not used by my clients.
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Indeed thats the way i'll go too
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Me too. You can't assume everyone is going to upgrade just like that - we have only recently got our users to stop using IE6!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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IE 9+ requires people to buy new version of WinDoze - something I wouldn't due to my viewers (implicitly, customers). IE 8 is pretty much still out there, (as is Win XP).
I would, therefore, drop jQuery.
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Actually I am running IE10 on my Win7 box.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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As any other decision we have to make, we must choose according to the needs.
Don't think the results of this poll will actually be relevant to anything.
Cheers!
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AlexCode wrote: Don't think the results of this poll will actually be relevant to anything.
What an odd remark!
Do you or did you ever take the polls seriously ?
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Yes I do...
I like polls.
They have multiple problems, and shouldn't play a big role on a decision but they should be part of it.
CP polls tend to be very M$ oriented, it's usually very easy to predict how a CP poll will end but sometimes I get surprised.
Also, better than the poll itself is usually the comments.
Usually on every poll you get at least someone sharing a bit of knowledge about something related to that.
It's knowledge, for sure not rocket science, but knowledge, and if this global network thing have something that really worths is for the knowledge sharing... (sorry Facebook, gossip is not really worthy  )
Specifically about this one, there's nothing good to take out of this.
I'm sure many (if not all) that voted for 2.0 don't actually control that decision. Customers and projects decide this... So even if you're really willing to drop old browsers compatibility but your users use IE8 what would you do?
Cheers!
Happy polls!
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It's all depend on client's requirements. Not all client accepts to ignore IE old versions.
Thanks
-Amit Gajjar (MinterProject)
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