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Do any of these count as work also?
- Browsing internet, reading news, blogs, CP, etc.
- Sitting around canteen, making coffee, reading newspapers.
- Chatting with colleges about nothing, hours away.
- Hitting the shitter, or having a cigarette outside.
If you take away all of them, how much work will be left, if any at all?
Let's agree to disagree!
Boris the animal Just Boris.
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Interesting to review the answers. Consultants interpret the question as "how many hours do I get paid for each day" and answer 4-8. Regular employees ask the question "are you asking how many hours am I at work, or how many hours I'm coding." If we could break this out by consultant/regular employee, I'll bet we'd get pretty different distributions.
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But where can you find [decent] contracting work (i.e. those from rentacoder or freelancer.com don't count) which doesn't require that you be onsite during normal work days?
dev
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No idea. I'm one of those rather timid folk who has always worked as an employee.
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seems like for individuals, most contracting work are sh*t lowly paid jobs for either those who has no permanent jobs or those from India/China
at least those from rent-a-coder or freelancer.com
dev
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no i don't have steady fulltime job, but thought of freelancing comes to my mind every so often (or thought of one day just quit day jobbing altogether)
any suggestion where to look?
dev
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If you were to track every minute you actually worked, it wouldn't add up to 8 to 10 hours a day. I didn't believe this until I tracked my hours, on paper, for a work week and I was only working 5.5 hours in a 8.5 hour work day.
Try it sometime. Very interesting.
"the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)
"It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011)
"But you probably have the smoothest scrotum of any grown man" - Pete O'Hanlon (2012)
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By working I think they mean trading their time for money.
I agree though that productive hours are only 40-60% of the time.
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What do you call working?
Are meetings working?
Are admin / HR related tasks working?
Is reading articles or websites about industry or technology related to your job working?
Is thinking time working?
Is going for a little walk to clear a mental blockage working?
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.
Shed Petition[ ^]
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ChrisElston wrote: What do you call working?
Whatever the individual is getting paid to do. If you are getting paid to pick your nose, then I guess, you are working. 
"the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)
"It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011)
"But you probably have the smoothest scrotum of any grown man" - Pete O'Hanlon (2012)
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There are people who doesn't work at all - and still manage to get a decent pay check ...
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Some are even supposed to be developers ...
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If "I tracked my hours, on paper" I would probably only be 60% efficient too... all my time would be taken in logging my hours!
Kris
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i00 wrote: all my time would be taken in logging my hours!
So very true. 
"the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)
"It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011)
"But you probably have the smoothest scrotum of any grown man" - Pete O'Hanlon (2012)
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not just because I have a 40h/week contract.
But I saw colleagues stepping out of line because of burnout. Colleagues I directly worked together with - which made me wonder when I'm about to go down.
So I changed some things, try to keep an eye on the time and took up another hobby to have a personal, private & active focus(archery).
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Trust me, If our Idiot management knew what not to do then work force would be used 80% more efficiently
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Less than 4 hours. Hours are not scalable so I restrict them.
And when something is not scalable, makes it scarce and perceived value goes up. (from your perspective, and also your customer perspective)
Time's value behaves like every non-renewable commodities.
By "work" I mean hours exchanged to someone else against money.
I don't count the other 4-8 hours I spend on learning new things I like, these hours are for myself.
modified 16-Jul-12 18:29pm.
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Lucky they didn't do this survey about 6 years ago. I notice there isn't an entry for 28 hours per day 
David Wright
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But is it still considered "working" when you enjoy your workplace and it is actually fun?
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
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I get to play with a compiler and ide all day and the outfit I work for actually pays me for it! 
Lord, grant me the serenity to accept that there are some things I just can’t keep up with,
the determination to keep up with the things I must keep up with,
and the wisdom to find a good RSS feed from someone who keeps up with what I’d like to,
but just don’t have the damn bandwidth to handle right now.
© 2009, Rex Hammock
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How many hours a day are you in office ?
How many hours a day are you "REALLY" working ? 
Rating always..... WELCOME
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.
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As a student I am 'paid' to think more than create and document. I consider heavily the fact that I am always trying to come up with answers as work time, I find it very tricky to not think about my work because it is quite enjoyable. I don't think one has to be writing code solidly for 6 hours a day, I imagine most programmers either spend their time debugging or testing ideas and well then there's paper work.
Personally I am trying to increase my working hours and actual working hours. I end up working 8-9 hours but if it weren't for that thinking time included I would not have made any progress on my projects. Pen and paper and walking are often tools ignored but it's very useful to use those as thought producing mechanisms, writing something down has a somewhat different emphasis although maybe this is because I can't read my writing! 
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As it stands, the survey lumps persons working in the range [8, 10) together. I'd be very curious to know how many of those work more than 8 hours a day on a regular basis.
/ravi
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