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They are so smart these days that making a call or sending a txt has become more difficult, so i rarely bother
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He's got no life
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(1) Avoid awkward social situations
Been there, done that! 
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Shockingly, there are 4 BACON optional answers but not a single CListCtrl!
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: but not a single CListCtrl
There are two CListCtrls now ![Jig | [Dance]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/jig.gif)
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We're going to need details, Nish.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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I do believe a lot of y'all are missing the point. I'm getting too old for this type of argument. But, it sounds as if there's even older fogies on this week.
If you're upset about the newfangled devices, you're in the wrong industry. The IT industry is made up of countless advances (and back-steps) of innovation. Why buy a smartphone when you have a computer? Why buy a cellular phone when there's a phone on a desk everywhere you go? Why buy a phone when you can speak with someone face to face?
- Convenience. yeah, that's the ticket.
If a life of convenience isn't useful, how about redundancy? It doesn't happen often, but, there are many occasions where I was without an internet connection and required the use of my phone to look up an important nugget of information to save the day. When my servers misbehave, I receive an alert on my phone. When the need arises, I have a telnet application that allows me to login to the mainframe to perform mischief or mayhem.
I tend to sit at my desk with my outlook shut down. Its a hog, and a nuisance. I can glance at my phone, pick up an important email, delete the rest and even get the all important text from the wife to pick up the kids at the same time. The gadgetty feel of all the cool tools that come with these phones are so amazing.
I've used the GPS to find my way out of a forest (girl scout troop).
I've used the bar code reader to research items that I was considering for purchase.
I've listened to music, watched videos and played the standard games.
I've taken my pulse with it. <if you="" have="" a="" camera,="" there's="" an="" app="" to="" take="" your="" pulse="">
I've tuned a violin with it.
I've taken video of the wife for evidence and/or extortion.
Oh...and I've talked to someone on it... using Skype. tell me that ain't weird. IP Call over cellular.
I can program it to always go to voice-mail for the mother in-law. I can blacklist callers to pick up and immediately hang up so they can never leave a message. I can set the phone to flash/vibrate/ring differently for anyone who calls me regularly.
You don't get dumber from embracing technology. Own it, don't let it own you. Master it and it will do amazing tricks for you when you need it.
No single raindrop believes it is to blame for the flood.
-irresponsibility@Despair.com
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I went on a family vacation in June to Yellowstone park. It was a large family vacation with a three car caravan. Once we got north of Omaha, Nebraska, cell reception went to nearly zero reception for most of the trip. Because I don't use my phone for much, I didn't really notice that I didn't have reception. Family members that did have Smart Phones started to freak out. They often checked to see if they had reception. I think several of them missed a significant portion of Yellowstone because they were looking at their phones.
We said before the trip (myself included) that we would use our phones to keep in touch during the caravan. There were times with traffic or just general lead feet that cars got apart from each other. Depending on our cell phones to communicate was pretty much worthless. We depend on these devices too much, and when they fail, people forget how to improvise. We ended up buying CB radios to help caravan communication.
As a kid, if we went to an amusement park, we set up a time and location to meet. Now, we just call each other on the phone and get mad when people don't answer... Phones are cool, but we need to remember that they won't and can't always be there!
Hogan
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quinton1969 wrote: I tend to sit at my desk with my outlook shut down. Its a hog, and a nuisance. I
can glance at my phone, pick up an important email, delete the rest and even get
the all important text from the wife to pick up the kids at the same time.
Yes, and on top of that you carry around a device that allows anyone who has access to the connection data to trace every step you take. With one of those things turned on you leave a data trail that even a blind man can't overlook. I prefer to stay under the radar.
quinton1969 wrote: The gadgetty feel of all the cool tools that come with these phones are so
amazing.
A toy? And of course something you can show off with? Ok.
quinton1969 wrote: I've used the GPS to find my way out of a forest (girl scout troop).
I used a map and a compass (armed boy scout group )
quinton1969 wrote: I've used the bar code reader to research items that I was considering for
purchase.
I usually know what I want beforehand
quinton1969 wrote: I've listened to music, watched videos and played the standard games.
Back to the toystore... I do all those things. At home. When I'm not at home, it's usually not to kill some time.
quinton1969 wrote: I've taken my pulse with it.
quinton1969 wrote: I've tuned a violin with it.
That's nice. But if I had a choice, I would prefer to have a phaser, not a tricorder
quinton1969 wrote: I've taken video of the wife for evidence and/or extortion.
Now, it's your business what videos you take, but I would simply recommend not to get married
quinton1969 wrote: I can program it to always go to voice-mail for the mother in-law. I can
blacklist callers to pick up and immediately hang up so they can never leave a
message. I can set the phone to flash/vibrate/ring differently for anyone who
calls me regularly.
And I have programmed everybody not to bother me unless it's really important. Those people who are important to me know how to reach me and for the others I don't exist.
quinton1969 wrote: You don't get dumber from embracing technology. Own it, don't let it own you.
Master it and it will do amazing tricks for you when you need it.
True, but that does not work that way for most people out there. They run around like zombies with one of those things in their face and actually behave quite rude and dumb. It indeed owns them and the only thing they have mastered is to look like complete fools.
"Dark the dark side is. Very dark..." - Yoda
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"Shut up, Yoda, and just make yourself another toast." - Obi Wan Kenobi
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CDP1802 wrote: Yes, and on top of that you carry around a device that allows anyone who has access to the connection data to trace every step you take. With one of those things turned on you leave a data trail that even a blind man can't overlook. I prefer to stay under the radar.
We've long passed the time of being able to "stay under the radar". Surveillance means overflow.
-You've got cameras everywhere. (ATMs, Traffic Lights, Most Stores, emergency vehicles)
-Most credit cards, passports and misc IDs contain RFID tech which can be tracked at a much greater range than proponents would have you believe.
-All of your internet/intranet access is tracked, as well. Masking IP is irrelevant nowadays. Google "browser fingerprint". I know, you're a Boy Scout and don't go to 'bad' websites. But, for someone who is afraid of being tracked by a smartphone, this might well be relevant.
-Hollywood is silly with outlandish tech. However, when you look at satellite technology freely available for maps, I don't doubt the really cool, real time observation is available to those who wish to use it.
-Your car can tell on you, too! (If it is newer than 2005). The black boxes that record accidents. The vehicles are mobile computers with cell phones built in. The higher end, new cars send you emails/texts when your oil needs changing. OnStar is one of several techs installed that will phone home.
CDP1802 wrote: True, but that does not work that way for most people out there. They run around like zombies with one of those things in their face and actually behave quite rude and dumb. It indeed owns them and the only thing they have mastered is to look like complete fools.
Can't argue that one. People bucking for a Darwin Award will always find a way to become an interesting statistic. 
No single raindrop believes it is to blame for the flood.
-irresponsibility@Despair.com
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quinton1969 wrote: Own it, don't let it own you.
Amen!
Marc
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The biggest reason I don't have a Smart Phone is because I'm too cheap. I do not see the financial value in purchasing a phone for a few hundred dollars and then spending a minimum of $10 per month or $120 per year to have Internet access on it. Most people I know end up spending close to an extra $30 per month or $360 per year on Internet access on their phone. This gets them "unlimited" access to the Internet provided they don't use too much of it and get cut off.
The second point is that phones are too easy to break. The screen on my cheap slider phone is severely scratched up from being in my pocket. I don't worry about it cause it would be inexpensive to replace and the screen is not touch, so it should still work. If I had a couple hundred dollar phone in my pocket, it would either get broken or I would have to baby it too much to make it worthwhile.
I'll keep my cheap phone and a couple hundred extra dollars in my pocket each year. I could even use it but BACON 
Hogan
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Same here. Living in a semi-rural part of the US none of the cheap plans would cut it, and between the phone, data, and tax upgrading to a VZW smartphone would cost me an extra $1000/2 years. Replacing my current mp3 player and GPS would cost about $500ish and I don't see another $500 of value in the device. If I thought I'd be able to get away with rooting and free tethering apps for 2 years I might change my mind but my hotel internet bills are generally only $50-100/year and my net connection is stable enough that more than $10ish/month for a backup is more than I'm willing to spend.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Ditto here.
Don't see the need to spend the extra money. If I want internet I can wait until I get to the house.
In fact I don't even own a cell phone anymore. Got tired of paying the ridiculous monthly bill
to just have a mobile phone for emergencies. Plus the service was crappy.
Sects Therapy
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I don't have one, but I'm (slightly pleasantly) surprised to see as many as roughly 1 in 3 don't.
[EDIT] Also - no CListCtrl?  [/EDIT]
I love go-o-o-o-ld!
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Johann van der Smut wrote: Also - no CListCtrl?
Now, that's just scary.
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Well, at least there's two votes for bacon....
Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
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Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932
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Johann van der Smut wrote: I don't have one
Ditto, though that may not last for much longer.
Kevin
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A couple of years ago, I was one of the people that thought they needed a smart phone. So upgraded from my Samsung E250 to an Samsung Omnia i900. For the first couple of days i thought that it was the greatest decision ever, touchscreen, reasonable camera, 16Gigs of total storage, etc,etc,.....
After the first week I thought to myself, I bought the thing, I'm bored with the games, so what can I use it for, other then the occasional call? The answer to the question was, absolutely diddly squat, zilch, nada, nothing.
It's now three years later the phone is lying in a box at home somewhere and I am using my Samsung E250.
IMHO, I believe that +- 90% of smartphine owners (just like I was) want to own a fancy gadget that can do loads of useless crap. Yeah, Yeah, Blacberry I hear, BBM, I hear, to which I say the following. If you are constantly sending BBM's then you should rather phone the person and get the info you want or go and speak to them in person.
Ego non sum semper iustus tamen Ego sum nunquam nefas!
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I reluctantly got a hybrid replacement recently, with a touchscreen and normal buttons after my previous trusty mobile telephone met it's maker by falling out of my pocket, onto a rock, then into the water while I was out fishing.
In my opinion the whole gadgetry obsession is putting us one step closer to living suspended in sacs of fluid with a giant computer feeding off our bioelectric output. Another brick in the wall as Roger Waters might say.
I'm all for a return to carrier pigeons, smoke signals and bits of parchment in bottles hurled hopefully into the sea.
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BACON actually.
Or I drop the damned thing on the floor and smash the screen. 
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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I see them, phone mounted on their hips in a quick-access holster - looking sooooo important.
I further see them constantly grabbing the phone and looking at it. Twiddling. Then returning it to its dock.
I know there thougths:
"I'm important and need to be in touch with everyone I know because they need me" (or is it the other way around?)
"I've no interpersonal skills - at least I can play games"
"Please - I'm lonely - someone text me and validate my existence"
A lifestyle dependent upon battery life and roaming charges.
How different Brave New World would have been - Huxley would have used the cell phones instead of Soma . No one, of course, would have believed him at the time - just too ridiculous to believe. Actually, it still is.
Luddites United !
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Generally, only google - the small screen makes significant surfing wait for later.
And I can't be Arrr-Jim-Me-Ladded with Farrrrcebook on phone or PC.
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."
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I tend to use an App for specific stuff if I can find a decent one.
For example football scores / news, cricket scores, Facebook / Twitter, Wikipedia, ebay, Dilbert,
I use apps for all of those rather than a browser. If there were apps available for other things then I would probably use those too.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.
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