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I have that where I am also. Too many in house apps that have not yet been upgraded to work well past IE6.
Sucks...
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well, i use google chrome.
Its way better and way more stabile than firefox
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I tried Chrome at first, too, it was good, but I like my privacy too much, so I killed that big brother again...
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Yeah! I like they way Mozilla respects the privacy!
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I'm choosing FF above Chrome. Mainly because a lot of extensions I'm using are not available for Chrome, but also because unlike with Mozilla, the goal of Google is not to make the web open. They are even releasing stuff that only works with chrome or chrome frame >_>
Jeroen De Dauw
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Agreed. I have voted you up, as well as I did with a FF post. It looks like there are too many IE fanatics around.
I am ready for a down-votage.
I will not fight.
Truth will prevail.
Greetings - Jacek
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FF and Chrome are both good. They're my number 1 and 2 respectively. Back in 2001 I thought IE 6 was top dog. But times have moved on. IE 7 was an improvement but still not good enough. I've not tried IE 8 but it doesn't seem much better and some say it's worse than IE 7. Opera is worth a look and is a good innovator but has a few serious usability glitches/bugs and the big boys tend not to pay it much attention when designing their web apps.
Kevin
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chrome lost my vote as soon as I noticed they installed malware (googleupdater) along with it without telling me and without an option for removal.
bad move google.
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The subject says it all.
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I agree, although I think both are worthy browsers. Chrome now has extensions in the stable version but it would have to replicate my favourite Firefox extensions at least as well in order for it to win my allegiance as number one.
Kevin
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I have switched to chrome as well. Overall, I'm very pleased. I never really liked FireFox except for Firebug (the real killer feature for FireFox). I want a stripped down browser without the extensions, so Chrome suited me well. Not for everyone, but I like it.
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Matt Gullett wrote: I want a stripped down browser without the extensions
Of course, there was nothing to stop you running Firefox without the extensions.
Ironically, a lot of the posts in the Google Chrome forums complain about Chrome's being too stripped down.
Anyway, we're all different. Firefox extensions are the primary selling point for me. Chrome now has extensions so things may change in the future.
Kevin
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You are correct, though Firefox never had the simplistic UI that Chrome has and was never as fast or as memory efficient. As I said, it's not for everyone, I've certainly come across some Chrome posts about it being too bare-bones. I'm working on a custom build of Chrome so I frequent those forums allot. The code is very clean and fairly easy to navigate which is nice.
The chrome extensions are not as powerful as Firefox extensions but they are much easier to program and should have far less issues with extensions behaving badly when combined. Hopefully Firefox can clean up some of the extension messiness with JetPack though I haven't heard great things from fellow developers.
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Matt Gullett wrote: far less issues with extensions behaving badly when combined
Fortunately, I've had few issues with extensions interference, even though I typically have about 25 active at any one time. When I do they're generally easily resolvable. The main drawback is the negative impact on browser start-up time, especially initial start-up time. However, I generally keep Firefox running all day when started so I can live with that. Chrome fans often tout its speed but to be honest I don't see a significant difference when compared to network latency. Given this, I compare on overall features and usability. Right now, for me, Firefox wins. Chrome is good though because its competition forces everyone to improve.
Memory usage sucks but I apply an about:config setting to force Firefox to release memory when minimised to the task bar in Windows. E.g., using 220MB now. Then minimised and maximised again takes me to 120MB. They really ought to apply that setting by default.
One useful feature of Firefox and Chrome is the ability to drag and drop tabs either way between the two.
Kevin
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I like to customize what I am using, to make it to fit my needs,
So nope! chrome doesn't rules!
Have you noticed about about:config in Firefox? It RULES
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When Chrome supports Roboform and something like NoScript, I will consider using it.
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I love the survey topic.
We are using an old version of Siebel 7 and it will not operate properly with IE7, IE8 (not even compatibility mode) or even FireFox.
We are stuck using IE6 for now and hoping our anti-virus and firewall keep out the bad guys as best as we can.
Hopefully we will be able to upgrade or replace the old legacy system soon as our budget permits.
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I agree. "Legacy Systems(s) requiere it" is a common reason.
We have a big problem with a new Web that we are developing because around 50% of the users have old PCs (windows 95/98, Win Xp with IE6, etc). They are distributed in all the country and not belongs to the same company.
May be you think "He's mad", but i'm not the only one.
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I can tell you that some medical software requires it. For this field a lot of stuff is years behind the current.
John
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Unfortunately as part of a large organization, there is an application some where used in another division of the company that only works with Internet Explorer 6. As a result everyone is blocked at the firewall from upgrading Internet Explorer. At the same time I mainly use FireFox and Chrome, so it does make that much of a difference to me. It just means that until they upgrade their ancient application I will need to continue developing for the lowest common denominator (ie6).
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Wow, you and I must work for the same company.
We have the same problem where I work and our group handles it with the same solution (develop for lowest common denominator, while using alternate browsers and making sure it works on them as well). I cannot imagine how long it will take for us to upgrade from Windows XP to 7 because of this.
Oh, and this is all with recent(!) off-the-shelf software, not some homegrown apps which just doesn't make any sense to me. Who is buying this stuff?
-Wayne
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Funny you say that. We recently upgraded one of our systems to "new and improved" software, and the first requirement on the list: Windows NT 4.0. Obviously we are one of the ones buying this software.
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for most of the people tied with that OLD xp , they just , just dont bother to upgrade.
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Well, I am a FireFox user because it is the best LOL
My Favorite Qoute
"Faliure is the beginning of Success"
Aamer A. Alduais (^_^Me^_^)
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