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I can't stand using a desk 
Seriously though, this may sound obvious, but get one that's high enough for you.
I worked for a company that standardized on desks that were just too low for the majority of the (Dutch) men working there.
With 1.80m (below average over here  ) it was doable for me, but I could've used a few more cm.
So pay a bit more for extra height, I guess.
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Thanks. I am 1.8m as well.
I don't speak meters so had to duckduckgo it. 
>64
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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I own a Steelcase Ology[^].
I bought it for two reasons:
1. Being able to adjust the low position and use the desk much more comfortably while seating.
2. In really long days, when your neck and back start to ask you to stop working, you can always change the position and then work a little while on foot.
In my experience this is not something that you will use every day, but it's nice to have it, the best of it: being able to adjust the sitting position to fit your body perfectly.
Recommendations:
1. Get something with square guides to reduce wobbling.
2. The stiffer the better.
3. Test it before buying if you can (Steelcase has showrooms, I am sure other brands will have them too), it's easier to feel if it is for you or not than with chairs.
4. When testing it try to make it wobble, this is the weak point of those desks, and ensure you will be able to work comfortably with that (this wobbling happens when the desk it's elevated).
5. Get something with encoder and memory, you don't really want to "find" the right position every time. Store it and press a button to get there.
6. A good under desktop cable managing system (the bigger the better, always).
7. Holes in each side and one lid in the middle to manage the cables.
8. Ensure the desktop will be big enough.
Standing position:
It's comfortable, but, after a while your feet will kill you, so, ensure you have proper and comfortable shoes or get a shaped mat to be able to work like that for longer period of times (I don't have one).
I guess the more recognized brands will be the best ones, I tested IKEA, ACTIU and a couple of brands more before going for Steelcase, and it was much better than anything else I tried.
Would have tested Herman Miller too but they did not had a showroom at Barcelona (Spain) at that time.
Check the noise, mine is super silent, but anything with motors will make some noise... ensure your neighbor won't wish to kill you every time you move that up and down.
Hope this helps.
modified 30-Aug-21 4:09am.
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Thanks for all the details.
>64
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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The SKARSTA white, Desk sit/stand, 160x80 cm - IKEA[^] has worked for me - it goes high enough to act as low, medium and 'standing' heights. They are a good price.
I hang the PC's Tower case below the desk, using a cheap (pound store) tension strap and plywood base that has a stabilising clamp (Jubilee) to the side leg.
I also picked up one of their swivel chairs to help with the back ache/posture (which is usually why a standing desk works well).
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Thank you. IKEA far away from here.
>64
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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Yes, I enjoy it, though not having been at my workplace much in the last year and a half.
Professional solutions (=robust, with safety anti-pinching (fingers, cables, ...) motors, stability) can come very expensive. IKEA  also has a few with decent prices (about 400€ here), but sometimes it is less expensive to buy expensive right away.
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Thanks.
Quote: but sometimes it is less expensive to buy expensive right away.
True of many things.
>64
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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Hard to believe some people actually have walking desks
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I use a Varidesk, the 48 inch one. Good quality, nicely weighted. I can have 2 24 inch monitors keyboard and mouse on it fine.
I bought it for back issues. When the back isn't bothering me, it stays down.
Working standing up isn't as much fun as I thought it would be. 
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Thanks. The Vari's seem to be popular.
>64
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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I have one of the electric standing desks from Vari. I vary the height of the desk from the seated position to the full-standing position at least twice a day (usually more) to get rid of leg stiffness caused by sitting for long periods of time. I'm pretty tall (190.5 cm = 6' 3"), and I find the highest position of the desk (123 cm = 4' 0.5") comfortable. Spec's now say that the desks go up to 128 cm (4' 2.4") max height. Have a small PC and two monitors, plus some books - it's pretty stable, but I wouldn't call it "rock solid". I'd recommend getting an industrial, padded mat to stand on for additional comfort. There's also those VariDesk converters (VariDesk 36) - had to raise it to it's maximum height and it was still a little short for me on the standard desk it was placed upon. Again, I would say it was pretty stable, but not "rock solid" and shakier than the full-blown electric desks. The do have the VariDesk Tall 40, but when I was looking, the reviews were not great, stating the desk was unstable at max height and the mouse/keyboard tray wasn't very ergonomic. Hope this helps.
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Get a stand/sit desk. I have one from Autonomous[^]. It's great. I start in the morning with it standing. Lower it as I get tired. For sitting you can adjust for any height chair. I would recommend the SmartDesk Pro. Also, get a good mat to stand on.
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Got a flexispot for my home-office two weeks ago with a custom table-top. Switch to standing about twice a day. Works well so far.
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My first attempt at getting a standing desk at work ended up with my carpenter-minded boss saying, "I could build you one". Not the best option at the time. So when my new boss took over, a standing desk was one of my first requests. I ended up with an Ergodesk standing desk. It's sturdy and it was one of the first entrants into the standing desk arena. It is sturdy but that comes at a price - I have to raise and lower it myself by turning knobs and re-tightening them.
Since I was one of the first to get a standing desk, several others have requested them. Our entity has chosen Varidesk for the ease of raising and lowering the desk, which is key to actually using it. If it's a pain to raise and lower it, you just won't do it.
When we all went home to work because of the plague  , I purchased a pneumatic desk from Office Depot, which has been surprisingly good!
Sitting is the new smoking, so kudos to you for looking for healthy options!
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I don't use one myself and I have a mess of wires on my desk and I have a basic chair and desk that don't collapse.....
BUT!
I have bought the "WorkFit-Z Mini Sit-Stand Desk" for three of my employees.
Each of them really likes it, it is easy to raise and lower, and when it is down, it doesn't impinge much on the desk working space. I will likely eventually get one for myself.
The additional benefit is that it is a lot less effort to try out than some of the pneumatic tables!
"Qulatiy is Job #1"
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I like my versadesk. It sits on top of my normal desk. I didn't like the button on the top though so I remounted it on the front.
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I use a standing desk all day, every work day.
I have an electric Brateck Lumi desk that cost about NZ$600 (~US$420). It is a decent desk with a 100kg weight allowance.
I used to have a manual wind desk, but that was just hard work and at the time I didn't have much stamina.
As for advice on the actual standing part...
- I would make sure you are eating well and getting all of the vitamins you need. (I was low in vitamin D and it really affected my stamina.)
- Eat breakfast!
- Wear comfortable shoes.
- Get an anti-fatigue mat if your standing position is on a hard surface.
- Have a chair nearby for rests.
- If you're prone to lower back pain, then don't be! Read 'Healing Back Pain' by John Sarno. It'll change your life if you're ready to believe.
- If you're prone to lower back pain, here's a greeeeeat stretch:
1. Get 2 x wedges, large enough for to stand on. The angle of the wedges should be around 22.5-25 degrees.
2. Place them both sloping outwards (like a house ridge), but a little apart.
3. Stand one foot on each, with the outside of each foot parallel with the side of the wedge.
4. Bend knees slightly, push knees out to side with consistent pressure, and hang forwards at the waist.
5. Position your bottom above your feet. The ideal position is where you're almost teetering forwards.
6. Maintain outward pressure at knees and slightly bent knees.
7. Hang for a couple of minutes.
8. Rest.
9. Repeat.
10. Do back flips because your lower back has eased.
Any more questions let me know.
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You probably will find that you want an automatically (motor) adjustable desk. Needs to go high enough to stand and then back to sitting.
I had at one one time one that went low enough that I could sit on the floor. I enjoyed the change in posture (standing, sitting in chair, then on floor.)
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Does any one or specifically, @code-witch know where I might find a complete grammar for javascript in EBNF form?
Admonisions telling me to google it are best left unposted. I've been googling all morning.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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*lol* only _well formed_ languages can be expressed in EBNF 
[Edit]
And because you are not able to google or overloaded with the results, take this:
BNF for EcmaScript.jj[^]
..and no, EBNF for javascript will _not_ be easy to go through
modified 27-Sep-21 21:01pm.
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You are the parsing/language master here Observed by me since ... and you are really good on that, at least for me 
modified 27-Sep-21 21:01pm.
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