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Finally Windows 11 is available to my desktop PC! 
It already worked quite well on my tablet, almost doubling battery life. So I am quite keen!
Might wait tonight though.. with all the zoom call going this week, workday my not be the best time.. 
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I've been debating about switching.
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I normally take the plunge with a clean, usually new, computer.
Upgrades usually leaves me less than impressed.
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I think the upgrade is free. I'm not ready to pay for a new OS when I have a perfectly good one.
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honey the codewitch wrote: I think the upgrade is free
They are.
I'm thinking about all problems that you might or might not get with updated programs and settings and such.
From experience, I prefer a clean slate for new major versions.
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I do too. I just don't want to spend the money on Win11. It's not even that I can't afford it. It's the principle. I bought Win10 (again) back in january when i bought my machine. At this point it just seems like throwing good money after bad if I make that purchase.
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I always get the license with my hardware.
So I guess you're using a VM.
In that case you could probably make a copy of the VM that you can upgrade, then create a new VM and move that license to it.
Would have to check the license agreement to make sure though.
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No, I got it with my hardware. I consider that buying it, particularly since I had the option of No operating system, or linux or windows pro (each for different $$$ - well linux was free) when I purchased the system.
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I have home. I used to always upgrade to pro until i realized there's no point.
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There are some points that might not affect you.
But the good news is that there's a clean install option when upgrading.
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Oh, that's good to know. The issue for me then is losing all my stuff. Although I keep my Documents/Photos/Videos/Music mapped to my D: drive so at least I won't lose that.
Still, moving an OS is a huge amount of work. I think I'll wait for 11 to mature some.
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I wouldn't need a backup of my drive so much as something that keeps all my programs and stuff installed. It's not going to happen. That means at least a day of rebuilding my environment.
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Then an upgrade would be better.
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Or I'll just wait for this install to get creaky and slow like they always do, and then spend the time rebuilding the environment.
That's what I usually do.
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For me that usually coincides with getting a new computer.
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I go through software a lot quicker than hardware. I buy higher end systems that will last me 10 years. I don't like replacing my machines.
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Well I need to be able to support my systems even if I'm on vacation (Luckily that never happens, but anyway) so I need to use a laptop.
They seldom last ten years. Mine usually lasts five (with extended warranty).
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I've had everything that could happen to a laptop happen to my laptop, including getting it stolen out of my home WHILE I WAS SLEEPING (made me want to get a dog)
That's why I don't buy them anymore, but then I'm not in your shoes.
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I wouldn't use a laptop if it was for personal use. But I need to be able to lug it around. And work from both home or office.
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Yeah, those were my work laptops all that ugly happened to.
I stopped using them for work because of the liability of them.
And I stopped using them at home because on principle I don't like to spend more than I want to lose on the thing, and I don't like the idea of setting even just $500 USD on a public coffee shop table. A laptop is that, but shinier.
So, it's just not for me. That and I eventually break the screen hinges from lugging it around (though in recent years laptops have gotten better in that regard)
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it doesn't seem that different at first glance (except the taskbar is locked at the bottom now :/ )
But I trust it extract even more performance from the hardware...
Although I heard bug report to the contrary, it was marked as urgent bug...
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Super Lloyd wrote: it was marked as urgent bug
Thanks for reminding me why I haven't switched yet. 
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only in some case with some hardware... I think, I forgot the name, but those SSD that look like a memory chip, are supposed to be slower. Got one on as my main drive though, not noticing anything (not that I am taxing the system anyway)
(by supposed to be, I mean it's a bug, of course)
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