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I have been doing some research into playing card history/evolution and I see that the "German" suits are Bells, Acorns, Hearts, and Leaves. Are those suits used for standard 52-card decks? Or only for decks with fewer cards (Skat decks, etc.) ?
I'm not looking for a Tarrock/Tarok deck -- with a tarot/trump suit -- but a standard/modern deck.
I had a quick look at the German version of that big online retailer and the only German-suited decks I saw had fewer than 52 cards.
Ideally, I'd like to find a "standard" deck with German (or Swiss) suits, and the court cards B, D, and K (rather than J, Q, and K).
If that's not too much to ask -- are there modern European decks with four court cards in each suit (56-card decks) ?
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Source - Wikipedia:
Spielkartenpakete (Blätter) gibt es im Handel in folgenden gängigen Zusammenstellungen:
Rommé – Bridge – Canasta: 2 × 52 Blatt + 6 Joker = 110 Blatt. Um schnell ein einzelnes Blatt mit 55 Karten (52 Blatt + 3 Joker) separieren zu können, haben die Rückseiten der beiden enthaltenen Blätter à 55 Karten unterschiedliche Farben. Seltener sind Ausführungen, bei denen alle 110 Karten einheitliche Rückseiten aufweisen. Mit diesem Blatt können alle gängigen Kartenspiele, die keine speziellen für das Spiel entwickelten Karten verwenden, gespielt werden. Nach Bedarf werden nicht benötigte Karten aus dem Blatt entfernt.
Patience: entspricht Rommé – Bridge – Canasta mit unterschiedlichen Farben der beiden enthaltenen Blätter à 55 Karten. Die Karten sind deutlich kleiner als übliche Spielkarten mit französischem Blatt, um auch bei begrenztem Platzangebot Patiencen legen zu können.
Poker, Whist oder Bridge: 52 Blatt. Gelegentlich liegen dem Blatt noch drei Joker bei, womit zwei dieser Blätter zu einem Rommé – Bridge – Canasta-Blatt kombiniert werden können.
Baccara 6× 52 Blatt. Die Karten tragen keine Index-Zeichen und haben einfarbige Rückseiten ohne Muster.
Skat: 32 Blatt, Kartenwerte in der Reihenfolge von unten nach oben 7, 8, 9, Dame, König, 10, Ass, darüber die vier Buben Karo, Herz, Pik, Kreuz.
Jass oder Durak: 36 Blatt, Kartenwerte 6…10, Bube, Dame, König, Ass.
Doppelkopf: 2 × 24 Blatt = 48 Blatt, Kartenwerte 9, 10, Bube, Dame, König, Ass, wobei jede Karte doppelt vorhanden ist. Gelegentlich liegt dem Blatt noch ein Joker bei.
Tarot: 78 Blatt, 56 Fehlfarben mit Kartenwerten 1…10, Bube, Reiter, Dame, König, dazu 21 Trümpfe I…XXI und eine Excuse. Das Tarotblatt ist das vollständige französische Kartenblatt und wird in kunstvoller gestalteten Varianten (z. B. mit italienischem Bild) zum Kartenlegen verwendet.
Farbe (Kartenspiel) – Wikipedia[^]
Hope that helps...
modified 14-Sep-21 11:29am.
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What are court cards B, D, and K (rather than J, Q, and K)???
The french cards have 52 sheets and 3 Jokers!
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The card values range from one (ace, A) to ten and then continue with the court cards jack or page (B or V for fr. valet "servant, servant"), lady (D, fr. dame, or Q for English queen) and king (K or R for fr. Roi).
Die Kartenwerte reichen von Eins (Ass, A) bis Zehn und setzen sich dann mit den Hofkarten Bube oder Page (B bzw. V für fr. Valet „Diener, Knecht“), Dame (D, fr. Dame, bzw. Q für engl. Queen) und König (K bzw. R für fr. Roi) fort.
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German cards have max. 36 sheets.
French ones max. 52 + 3 Jokers.
That means here in germany we play Romme or Canasta with so called french cards!
Skat is also played with french cards here.
Spielkarten - Wissenswertes[^]
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Yes, well we tend to use "French-suited playing cards" in the U.S. as well.
French-suited playing cards - Wikipedia[^]
German-suited playing cards - Wikipedia[^]
There are essentially three factors to consider...
The pip cards:
Ace (A), 2 through 10 -- "Standard"
Ace (A), 6 through 10 -- "Stripped"
Ace (A), 7 through 10 -- "Stripped"
Ace (A), 9 through 10 -- "Stripped"
(other schemes exist)
The court cards:
English -- Jack (J), Queen (Q), King (K)
French (1) -- Valet (V), Dame (D), Roi (R)
French (2) -- Valet (V), Chevalier (C), Dame (D), Roi (R)
German (1) -- Unter (U), Ober (O), König (K)
German (2) -- Bube (B), Dame (D), König (K)
(other schemes exist)
The suits:
English -- Diamonds, Clubs, Hearts, Spades
French -- Carreaux (tiles), Trèfles (clovers), Cœurs (hearts), Piques (pikes)
German -- Schelle (bells), Eichel (acorns), Herz (hearts), Blatt (leaves)
Swiss -- Schellen (bells), Eicheln (acorns), Rosen (roses), Schilten (shields)
(other schemes exist)
Pick one from column A, one from column B, one from column C, add Jokers as required...
I assume you are familiar with the deck which has the "standard" pip cards, the "German (2)" court cards, and the "French" suits -- I have such a deck I bought in Germany.
What I am seeking is similar, but has the "German" suits instead.
I think this comes close to what I want, if they mean the court cards are the "German (2)" set:
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In 2019, ASS Altenburger produced a double 52-card, German-suited pack for the game of Rommé. However, uniquely, it had Queens and Jacks instead of Obers and Unters.
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After posting my question, I found this:
Altenburger Spielkartenladen Rummy, German image.: Amazon.de: Toys & Games[^]
Which looks like what I want. I'm assuming it isn't a commonly used deck in Germany.
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"Altenburger Spielkartenladen Rummy, German image" is an unusual cards set - a mix of german and french cards.
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Yes. But more German than I've seen.
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I just ordered two different decks (54- and 78-cards) from the French version of the site as well and I'll see what arrives.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: D,
Isn't this "N,"?
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Why would you think so? What do you know?! 
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Koenig ... Burger ...
..................... Narren ...
(Bube) by another handle but now that think about it, aren't there really 54 cards in a deck?
[EDIT]
Oops. Perhaps I meant "K,". Etc ... 
[/EDIT]
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54 with 2 Jokers, yes, but obviously there are many more Jokers than actual cards around here...
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