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obermd wrote: It's part of the OOTB (Out Of The Box) subsystem.
Also known as the OOIM* subsystem.
* Out Of It's Mind
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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I had that this morning Rich on my Surface Pro - it was quite hot ( fan on constantly ) and a bit sluggish so I thought I'd reboot - then I got the Windows is preparing... etc - took anout 30 minutes to sort itself out. All good now though.
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Prolly a "cumulative" update is downloading ... fire up TM and under "Processes" tab sort on CPU use to see whats currently dogging your senses.
Sometimes it's Windows other times it's some nube virus writer. Yesterday I encountered an exploit which logged me off a "Sign-In" site ... but didn't do anything more than test my patience. The typical system-crash/bsod might not have been what he was after.
Nor was my wait to log back into the site until I powered down completely and restarted the computer. Ha! Nube.
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Patch Tuesday as it's commonly known (2nd Tuesday of the month) is still a thing, so yeah, this is when MS releases their regular updates. That would explain the "why now".
For anyone who has to update multiple systems, and want to remain in control of what gets installed and when...I strongly suggest reading up on WSUS. It's been built into Windows Server for ages, and it's rather easy to set up and maintain, and you can set it up so nothing goes by without you getting involved and approving of anything it has on offer. I've used it to block countless nagware patches MS has pushed over the years, including that full-screen "upgrade to Windows 10" thing that was showing up on Windows 7 and drove everyone crazy.
I have dozens of systems, both physical and virtual, that all need to be patched, and I'm doing this through a tiny 5mbps connection. Patches, if you approve them, only get downloaded once and the endpoints never need to go out to the internet. For that alone I find it's worth my time. I quite literally remote into that system only once a month to review and then approve the updates that are queued and waiting.
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Let mine happen overnight as I have moved into that fatalistic area where I don't give a rats. When I restarted this morning it wanted to reset my browser functionality, install Office365 and when I rejected that is wanted to create web links to Office365.
MS fatalistic does mean f***ing stupid!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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Hah, I thought it was my work computer making me reboot to install updates (meaning my IT guys), but yes, it has slowed down and the only thing to do was to do a reboot and lo and behold there were updates. It may be an intentional thing as this has been happening for the last year or so.
Ken
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I just updated as well, noticed a drop in performance before and after. Don't see anything alarming in Task Manager, maybe I'm just imagining it.
Although it does bother me that the blue screen told me for several minutes each time that the "update" and the "cleanup" steps were 100% complete.
If they're 100% complete, how come I'm not using the device? Seems that Bill Gates & co have a different definition of "100% complete".
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Yes - we get hit with this on our CodeProject servers. We've noticed that once updates are downloaded and ready to install - but not actually installed - the servers get a little dodgy.
It's...not comforting.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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My experience has been that the staging process for the update seems to break Windows networking, as that's the first symptom something's going on. I have a feeling they put some kind of filtering in place once the update is ready so that it can't be corrupted by malware prior to installation. Unfortunately the filtering causes a lot of things to stop working.
Software Zen: delete this;
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I have a little older laptop, dual core, 2.6GHz, 4GB memory, that has gotten slower and slower.
Windows now uses 100% of one core even for simple things. Frequently runs out of memory. Firefox needs to be restarted every few hours.
Don't know what they're doing under the covers, but I'm taking a serious look at Linux.
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Not the planned one, but it just came into my head as I waited for the kettle to boil!
"Secant arc ticks all the boxes in this region". (9)
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Antarctic ?
The things people think of while the kettle is on 
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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pkfox wrote: The things people think of while the kettle is on
You should see the one's I can't share!!!
YAUT
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Go for it! I've set a few naughty ones that need company. 
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No - not in service or pricing or anything like that which the idea of competition should bring to mind.
Screwing with customer in a re-order of an item.
So time ago I posted how Amazon seemed increased the price on anything I already purchased. I guess the logic being that if I am repurchasing it I liked it and will pay more for it. It wasn't something I needed any time soon so I let them keep it so they can enjoy the benefits of its increasing value.
Now Walmart is playing a different game - trying to get me into their store. I bought some of an item yesterday - not the full compliment - as I was saving a couple more to help top-up an order to the free delivery level. In to the cart they went along with items that were out of stock yesterday and in stock today. After all was said and done, I was going to check out and observed the items, which were supposed to be deliverable (as they were with yesterday's purchase) must now be picked up in person. Supposedly only four left. The whole point was the free delivery and so I just dropped it.
Then I had two ideas. (1) create the order without logging in first (no cookies or anything like that survive on my machine when the browser closes). Well - it seems they remembered me enough, via the URL no doubt, and things were the same. Now try idea (2): order it from my work computer. Sure enough, they were now deliverable. Nothing suddenly out of stock or in short supply. It's just amazing what about 90 seconds can make in their stock and shipping abilities.
Oh - as an aside - you know how on Amazon an item can be a great price or literally 5x to 10x what it's worth, depending upon which vendor you choose? Walmart's got that down, too.
It's great seeing how the market is ever improving for the consumer by the that market force known as competition.
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Just in case... 
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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This seems to be a trend. You really need a clean VM that after shopping you just revert to the saved copy.
But thinking further, I suspect you'd need to create a new account each time to avoid them tracking you.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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New account won't do it - they recognized my machine &/or IP (probably the latter). One option is to more frequently reboot my router and get a new IP assignment.
Making clean VM's is not quite in the cards - I don't have control over the company's VM. I may be able to use the VM, proper, as for now I simply use it as a way into the company network so I can connect to my Xeon.
An experiment is in the making!
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I had one Amazon order cancelled and refunded just before it was due to ship as it was out of stock. Check the page and it was in stock - but at twice the price ... 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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You should have threatened to report them to the SFO. Unethical and probably illegal.
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I wonder if clean browser + TOR or a privacy VPN would help.
I have had fairly good luck in the Walmart marketplace. Most of the time my order goes to a third party.
I just bought 2 small 15 inch tires via Walmart. I loved the fact that they were delivered with just a barcode+address taped to each one. No boxes to recycle!
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I have never had any issues with Amazon price hikes on item re-orders. I order from Amazon at least 2-4 times a month for myself and the family.
I'm not saying it doesn't happen, just saying it has never happened to me yet.
Next time this happens to you, check to see if the re-order item with the price increase is coming from the same vendor you bought from last time. The prices vary greatly sometimes for the same item, by vendor.
Amazon may be giving you another vendor's item at an increased price, if the item is out of stock for the vendor you originally ordered from. Just a thought.
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Well - based on experience and feedback elsewhere in the thread, it certainly does happen. Not always.
One thing I've noticed on both Amazon and Walmart: caveat emptor is in full force with respect to pricing. Some items - often the same item, can vary in price tremendously. The absurdly high prices are (as I remember) always third party vendors. Looking for a quick buck.
A place I also find a useful online ordering source for general merchandise: Target.com .
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Yes, you have to watch the 3rd party vendors. I just ordered an item from Amazon. On the web page there were 2 options: 1 for $5 or 2 for $6.50. Choosing option 2 as the better price I found when I went to checkout that there was a $70 shipping charge. So, cancel that, go back and pick option 1, set a quantity of 4. This time check out shows $20 for 4 item's and free shipping with my prime membership.
Apparently the option 2 vendor was hoping I'd do a 1-click purchase and not notice the high price. The very reason I never do a 1-click purchase. I want to see what the total charges are and who's getting them before I agree. I'll expend the extra clicks, they're cheap.
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