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4-Aug-21 22:00

Placed back around run around during the day(7)

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OriginalGriff4-Aug-21 22:12

4-Aug-21 22:12

Placed      LAID
  back      DIAL
  around    DI   AL
run around  (anag)
              URN

during the day
DIURNAL

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pkfox4-Aug-21 22:18

4-Aug-21 22:18

YAUT - we won't have to wait until 11.30 Big Grin | :-D

how's the kitchen coming along ?

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OriginalGriff4-Aug-21 22:37

4-Aug-21 22:37

Not bad - it's kinda damp today so I won't be doing much to it (I don't have a workshop, so I only do woodwork on dry days as rain and power tools is a bad combination).

I spent far too much time yesterday trying to plan the cuts on two sheets of 8' by 4' birch ply to get the panels out with the grain all running in the same direction and missing the defects until I realised that this was a job for a CAD package ... Laugh | :laugh:

pkfox4-Aug-21 23:07

4-Aug-21 23:07

Oh I assumed you had a workshop as you have a routing table et al

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OriginalGriff5-Aug-21 0:24

5-Aug-21 0:24

No, I have to drag it all out on the patio, and drag it all away again when I'm done for the day ...

Greg Utas5-Aug-21 1:06

Greg Utas

5-Aug-21 1:06

Just keep making them easy enough that they're solved by the time I get out of bed! Poke tongue | ;-P

I don't think I would've gotten this one, though.

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pkfox5-Aug-21 10:53

5-Aug-21 10:53

I'm surprised you said that Smile | :)

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englebart5-Aug-21 16:18

englebart

5-Aug-21 16:18

Thank you for the diagram.

My eye always gloss over when I read the clues.

OriginalGriff5-Aug-21 20:01

I'm in agony - kitchen rennovations

5-Aug-21 20:01

You're welcome!

charlieg4-Aug-21 11:35

4-Aug-21 11:35

Trying to get to the point of being able to pull the trigger on a re-do of the kitchen. We're not going crazy, but it's still big bucks. I think I have a good contractor, but his cost estimation software blows. Don't even ask me how we get the gas range my wife wants Smile | :)

. Damn Italians, no offense, but you make great looking stoves.

On a happier note: Anniversary #43 is tomorrow. And she has *no* idea what her present is. Yeah, I'm knocking her socks off (besides the damn kitchen, but I want that too, so it doesn't count).

If you've never done a kitchen re-do, you are in for a treat. We just want a 36" dual fuel gas range. This means gas burners on top, true electric convection oven below (so why not say so?). So, $3,500 USD give or take later, let's talk range hoods. There are millions of houses designed such that the range hood recirculates into the kitchen. It's total BS and a complete design fail. I'm done with it. I want a real range hood over the new stove. $3,500 for a range hood? D'Oh! | :doh:

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Mike Hankey4-Aug-21 11:47

Mike Hankey

4-Aug-21 11:47

Kitchen make overs are extremely expensive, especially now when everyone seems to be taking advantage of the Covid shortages.

Luckily we finished ours before the big shortage and we did all the work so it wasn't as bad.

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charlieg4-Aug-21 16:30

4-Aug-21 16:30

Prices are coming down. I'm on the backend of the curve. The funny thing, the sales/quoter/estimator does not understand what a hard requirement is.
He says, "for us to get started, 40% down." <- material purchases I understand. That's a hard requirement for me.

Me: I want a real range vent exhausting to the outside, quote says "vent to exterior wall if possible." bzzzz we have a problem mission control. Smile | :)

I just don't have the time to do all the work, and it needs to be done quickly. I live in this warp bubble. If I try to do on the side work, like renovate a kitchen or do some side work for another company, my primary customer never fails to go bat crap crazy.

Mike Hankey4-Aug-21 19:00

Mike Hankey

4-Aug-21 19:00

I understand the work and time involved, I've done many over the years.

Just be sure you hire someone reputable, at 40% down that's quite a bit up front.

Good luck

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David Crow5-Aug-21 3:00

David Crow

5-Aug-21 3:00

charlieg wrote:
He says, "for us to get started, 40% down." <- material purchases I understand. That's a hard requirement for me.

I once had electrical work done where I purchased all of the supplies. Then I did not have to pay the electrician anything until the job was complete. If he had bailed part way through, I'm not out anything because the supplies would be needed no matter who is doing the work. Paying for labor up front is just a recipe for disaster these days.

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charlieg12-Aug-21 7:36

12-Aug-21 7:36

just an update: I don't know squat about cabinets other than they cost big $$. I suppose I could buy them myself.

Mycroft Holmes4-Aug-21 12:18

Mycroft Holmes

4-Aug-21 12:18

We had to replace out stove/oven a couple of years ago, $14k got the one that SWBO desired.

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charlieg4-Aug-21 16:32

4-Aug-21 16:32

must have been a hell of a stove, or there was other work involved. Smile | :)

Mycroft Holmes4-Aug-21 21:44

Mycroft Holmes

4-Aug-21 21:44

Nope a 1.2m double oven with teppanyaki plate and 6 gas burners. I'd bitch about it but I get rather well fed from it.

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David Crow5-Aug-21 3:02

David Crow

5-Aug-21 3:02

Or he paid $12K too much.

CPallini4-Aug-21 20:14

CPallini

4-Aug-21 20:14

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Richard MacCutchan4-Aug-21 21:11

Richard MacCutchan

4-Aug-21 21:11

Mycroft Holmes wrote:
SWBO

charlieg5-Aug-21 9:26

5-Aug-21 9:26

ha, I actually had to google that. Smile | :)

. I think I'm the one with the stove fetish. I'm so tired of electric stoves having had the luxury of cooking on gas from time to time. I actually had a nice 36" Bosch picked out, 5 stars, etc. But SWMBO has this French country thing, and Pinterest is my nemesis. Found this range from Italy that even I admit is gorgeous.

charlieg12-Aug-21 7:37

12-Aug-21 7:37

good news - SWMBO'd has rescinded her desire for the Italian store (after I told here they were 24-30 weeks out - shipping issue). I'm back to Bosche.