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You seem to suggest that a higher pitched voiced conveys more information, thus requiring more bits.
I dare to challenge that assumption.
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I think what Dan is saying is that higher frequency information requires more bits of encoding.
From my perspective, whether a high frequency voice has more information than a lower one is a density factor rather a quality of information. Yes, more information but not necessarily better information. Just saying. Interesting question.
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modified 10-Feb-23 19:26pm.
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In order to correctly represent a tone (no aliasing or other artifacts), the Nyquist-Shannon Theorem requires at least 2 data points for each cycle. As female voices have a higher pitch than male voices, reproducing them accurately requires a higher sampling rate, i.e. more bits/second.
It is in this sense that female voices require a higher bit rate than male voices.
A higher frequency does allow for faster transmission of data, but that depends on the encoding. The encoding used by female voices does not markedly differ from that used by male voices, therefore the data transmission rate is similar.
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A tone can be represented in many ways. E.g. MIDI tone representation used a constant number of bits regardless of the pitch. If all the information you intend to convey (or preserve) is the pitch, representing the waveform is a truly wasteful format.
I have not yet heard any feminist claim that female speech carries more information than male speech because the female voice is higher pitched. Considering some other rather crazy feminist arguments I have heard, I wouldn't be surprised if this pops up as well.
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Very interesting.
Especially...
Quote:
"Thunderbird is literally a bunch of code running on top of Firefox. All the tabs and sections you see in our applications are just browser tabs with a custom user interface."
Quote: "...including a lot of C++, JS, CSS, and XHTML to ensure everything works properly..."
XHTML!? Interesting, thought that was basically a dead spec.
Interesting article thanks for posting.
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Quote: "Why does Thunderbird look so old"
Oh, god, what are they gonna do to it?
It looks fine.
A tree to show the hierarchical folder structure, a list view to show individual items, and another area to show the details of the selected item. Menus, toolbars, right-click options, tooltips, everything I would expect from a functional application.
There's no need to break the paradigm (and yes, I used that word). Please don't turn it into a phone app.
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From that link
"Why does Thunderbird look so old"
That sort of expression always make me wonder why do you care?
Do you use email for the lines around the boxes or for the content of the email itself?
For example myself I don't care what the Print button looks like as long as I can find it and it actually prints.
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I just discovered how to build an NES (Nintendo) emulator on my Linux box.
When I started developing software 30 years ago, I began with C, but I had no idea how to do this build (see the details at this answer on AskUbuntu[^]).
Developing Complete Apps On Linux
The person who explained what I needed to do had so much knowledge and I started thinking about developing apps on Linux -- by complete I mean with a GUI. The emulator has a complete GUI and is quite an amazing project.
I Searched For Books
I decided to set out on a search for a book which would teach me :
How to create a GUI-based app (like an old Windows Forms app on Windows)
>60,000 Books On O'Reilly
I'm a O'Reilly Books subscriber so I searched there, because they have over 60,000 books available and those books go back to the beginning of my career. Quite amazing library actually.
Here's What I Found
I discovered three main things:
1. All the serious (and probably best) books were written in the (distant) past (considering speed of Internet-age)
2. Books that cover truly deep topics (not just HTML, or a JS Framework) are rarely (maybe never) published after 2008 or so.
3. Learning to build a UI while learning to program Linux is not common -- maybe non-existent
note*: there are still good tech books published & I read many of them through the year, but they just don't seem to have the depth of coverage that they used to have.
I found the fantastic book, Advanced Programming in the Unix Environment, 3rd ed[^], by Stephens & Rago. (1st ed published in 1992)
I was able to compile numerous examples and I will go through that book because there is a lot of really good stuff in there.
There is also the new(er) (2010) The Linux Programming Interface, by Michael Kerrisk[^]
That one is amazing, but it's more directed toward systems programming instead of app programming.
What Windows Ubiquity Had Given Us Forms Programmers
I am so amazed what the ubiquity of Windows desktop had given us over the years.
We had this One Place to go to develop desktop apps and it was just beginning to make sense when the Internet hit.
About Books & Learning Programming
Learning programming feels so "high-level" now & it's even more difficult to know what is really going on under the lid.
1 or 2 Decades
So anyways, it's quite amazing to learn to program Linux by reading books that are 1 or 2 decades old now. You just can't learn it by reading anything newer. 
modified 9-Feb-23 16:25pm.
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