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Maximilien wrote: female voices needs about twice as much bits of information
It makes sense that you'd need more bits to synthesize a female voice - female voices have a higher pitch than male voices, therefore a higher frequency is necessary to encode them properly. Whether the frequency must be double, I have no idea.
I ignore issues such as varying volume (possibly female voices vary naturally more than male?), which would also add to the required bit rate.
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You seem to suggest that a higher pitched voiced conveys more information, thus requiring more bits.
I dare to challenge that assumption.
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I think what Dan is saying is that higher frequency information requires more bits of encoding.
From my perspective, whether a high frequency voice has more information than a lower one is a density factor rather a quality of information. Yes, more information but not necessarily better information. Just saying. Interesting question.
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In order to correctly represent a tone (no aliasing or other artifacts), the Nyquist-Shannon Theorem requires at least 2 data points for each cycle. As female voices have a higher pitch than male voices, reproducing them accurately requires a higher sampling rate, i.e. more bits/second.
It is in this sense that female voices require a higher bit rate than male voices.
A higher frequency does allow for faster transmission of data, but that depends on the encoding. The encoding used by female voices does not markedly differ from that used by male voices, therefore the data transmission rate is similar.
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A tone can be represented in many ways. E.g. MIDI tone representation used a constant number of bits regardless of the pitch. If all the information you intend to convey (or preserve) is the pitch, representing the waveform is a truly wasteful format.
I have not yet heard any feminist claim that female speech carries more information than male speech because the female voice is higher pitched. Considering some other rather crazy feminist arguments I have heard, I wouldn't be surprised if this pops up as well.
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Very interesting.
Especially...
Quote:
"Thunderbird is literally a bunch of code running on top of Firefox. All the tabs and sections you see in our applications are just browser tabs with a custom user interface."
Quote: "...including a lot of C++, JS, CSS, and XHTML to ensure everything works properly..."
XHTML!? Interesting, thought that was basically a dead spec.
Interesting article thanks for posting.
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Quote: "Why does Thunderbird look so old"
Oh, god, what are they gonna do to it?
It looks fine.
A tree to show the hierarchical folder structure, a list view to show individual items, and another area to show the details of the selected item. Menus, toolbars, right-click options, tooltips, everything I would expect from a functional application.
There's no need to break the paradigm (and yes, I used that word). Please don't turn it into a phone app.
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From that link
"Why does Thunderbird look so old"
That sort of expression always make me wonder why do you care?
Do you use email for the lines around the boxes or for the content of the email itself?
For example myself I don't care what the Print button looks like as long as I can find it and it actually prints.
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