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So, QA will soon be inundated with 'Gimme Teh Codez Plz' types of requests?
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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LMFTFY
jeron1 wrote: So, QA will soon be inundated with even more 'Gimme Teh Codez Plz' types of requests?
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Truth. 
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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If he can't fire the number of people he wants to get rid of, get them to choose to quit on their own. Then the company isn't on the hook for any sort of termination compensation.
Seems pretty obvious. Someone convince me that wasn't his strategy all along.
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I'm still convinced he wants to punish the staff before he sinks the ship. I don't think he had any intention of making this a profitable endeavor, especially since he took it private as well.
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While I wouldn't mind seeing Twitter disappear (for the scourge that it is), I don't see how this would ultimately had been his goal, even if he has the money to burn to do it.
If that's been his plan all along, then I thank him for taking that bullet. Y'know, for the sake of humanity. Then I would plead for him to do the same to Facebook.
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I don't know, when I Google "High Intensity" all I get is HIIT high intensity training (aka working out really hard). Which includes a lot of health benefits from lowered body fat and heart rate, and lowered blood pressure, among others.
I can't possibly see any health benefits in working long hours at a high intensity. 
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Slacker007 wrote: I can't possibly see any health benefits in working long hours at a high intensity.
No social life or spare time to indulge your vices?
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I am fairly certain that having no social life and working long hours at high intensity will produce many vices to indulge in. 
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I think there'll be a lot of hitting the road if he's not careful. 
/ravi
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Ravi Bhavnani wrote: I think there'll be a lot of hitting taking the road and saying "screw you" if he's not careful. 
FTFY
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Inspired douche-buggery
Software Zen: delete this;
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Work.............. Life................. Balance............ I do wonder about this "quiet quitting" phenomenon. Apparently people are doing their jobs and just their WHOLE job and then shockingly they are going outside and enjoying life.
Apparently people are then happier with life. I mean who would have thunk of such a thing.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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Regular high intensity work, or Special High Intensity Training?
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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Why is anyone surprised by this. Look at his other successful companies, Tesla and SpaceX, and you see this same work environment. Boring Company doesn't seem to be as successful and you also don't hear about this type of work environment there.
Had Musk just done this when he took over he wouldn't have had to fire half the staff. They would have quit, saving him 90 days salary for over 3,500 people. A change in work requirements leading people to mass quitting is not one of the triggers in either the US WARN act or its California counterpart, so long as those work requirement changes are consistently applied and for longer than the notification periods required by these two Laws.
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will the birds fly out of the cage ?
Caveat Emptor.
"Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
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I've not been on here for a few days, so maybe I missed it. So if this has already run it's course, please ignore.
But, anyway, I'll pitch in with my two lines...
If a manager can only figure out who the good and bad developers are, by counting lines of code written:
He/she shouldn't be a manager.
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Uh, yeah, pretty much everyone here agrees with that.
But that's just the tip of the iceberg.
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Indeed.
I had a coworker who had a negative line count. He refactored an old library and got rid of thousands of lines, while maintaining functionality. That was the best thing that had ever happened to that library, which suddenly became a lot more manageable.
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I had to upgrade an industrial line with a robot.
The program of the robot was around 15k lines of code and over 1200 positions.
When I ended, my program had a bunch more functionality while being more stable and having not even 2k lines and around 350 positions.
The maintenance guy bought me a bottle of wine because I had made his life waaaayyy easier with that changes.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Ah, a manager that can count!
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Oh sweet bliss!
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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I remember reading in Dr. Dobbs about 20/25 years ago that there was a manager who used a tool that would count semicolons to determine number of lines. This information got leaked to some junior programmers who then started writing lines as -
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
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And thus is revealed a great problem
No matter what you do to try and leverage a metric out of what we do as software developers, there will ALWAYS be someone who figures out how to game the system.
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Or by counting the number of hours worked.
Had a manager at a previous job whose "best worker" clocked in 60 - 70 hours a week. The problem was this worker took 60 - 70 hours to complete the same amount of work everyone else completed in 30 hours.
"I reject your reality and substitute my own." -- Adam Savage
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