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Peter Gorod26-Aug-22 7:15
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Lovely thread!

I once had an office of around 25 people running on a Linux mail and file server, which ran inside a Hyper-V VM. This is for a non-profit and I am working for free... I was really proud of the architecture, a replicated server (for fault tolerance) and 24 hourly automatic checkpoints, plus external backups.

The tech guy who was in charge of keeping this running, a friend of mine, also joining in pro bono, learned to create a checkpoint (aka snapshot) of the VM before running OS updates, just in case they needed to be reverted. Once he was hesitant about some problem and left the checkpoint there.

Months go by. The checkpoint keeps growing on the disk, but that's not going to be our problem.

Now a person in the office is having trouble running some Webmin commands and the tech guy teaches her how to do it directly from Linux. So now we have a user playing with an admin command-line, but that's not going to be our problem.

So she wants to run those commands from the Hyper-V server for convenience, and there's no Putty there. But there's this nice Hyper-V console which even has some nice icons on the toolbar. Like that useful "back" button that she pressed to get back to a previous screen or something she regretted doing.

Only it's not a "back" button, despite having an arrow pointing to the left. It's "Revert" - a really efficient time machine taking you back months to the point of that forgotten checkpoint!

Replica server does what it is designed to do - replicates all those changes throwing the data away. That's the reason why I always tell people that replicas aren't backups...

Nobody called me in the initial 24h. Hour by hour, the valued data is replaced with the old stuff. Then I am called, and learn that backups had been long neglected.

Over 20 people lose many months' worth of work... on an architecture that has more layers of prevention than most people even care to do (at least locally, I know a professionally-run cloud service would be different).

She think it was her fault, but my friend knows it was his.

In reality it was probably mine, in some dark twisted way...
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