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Rich Shealer wrote: ... it was that my Mom was a lousy cook!
Mine also: she would boil vegetables until the last vitamin cried out in agony and passed away.
If you rested a fork on a brussels sprout, it would sink to the plate. 
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Shocker. People joined the Nelsonian era navy to get away from their mothers cooking!
If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.
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I thought they 'joined' the Navy because they were pressed into service by a press gang!
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That's the story they told their mothers to avoid hurting their feelings when they got back.
If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.
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OriginalGriff wrote: she would boil vegetables until the last vitamin cried out in agony and passed away.
IOW, good old British cooking. 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Rich Shealer wrote: type of bread such as toast or a biscuit.
When you say biscuit, do you mean cookie? 
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I could have said scone, but then the folks stateside would be confused as that implies a dessert. Too many words with different meanings.
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Or a muffin. English[^] of course!
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Rich Shealer wrote: I suddenly realized on morning that my dislike of eggs as a kid wasn't me being picky, it was that my Mom was a lousy cook!
I like both. Being a good cook does not mean that your eggs are always runny, which most kids not enjoy anyway.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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"Sunny Side Up" eggs are usually too runny for me (depends on the cook). Please make my order "Over Medium", with a side of hash browns and two slices of whole wheat toast. And Coffee -- always coffee. No cream or sugar added.
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I grew up calling them dippy eggs, but that seemed to be a term only used in parts of Pennsylvania
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In Texas and probably most of US
Pan is slightly oiled with butter, grease (bacon if available) or olive oil
sunny side up - eggs is cooked on one side only, yolk is exposed but sometimes
splattered with hot oil or butter.
over easy - like the sunny side up but flipped over once keeping yolk intact
well done - egg is fried on both sides including yolk
good for a sandwich or eaten off plate
I have had all these three preparations done in England, Germany and Holland
with no confusion even when continental breakfast is available (yum)
Now breakfast meats, bacon, sausage, steak
all have their preferred preps.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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I've lived most of my life in south central Pennsylvania, and dippy eggs is a term I've herd often.
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We have giga build farm here.
I found a scenario were some base class can be setup incorrectly that is hard to detect (basically some code to detect faulty redo code). I can't commit it because when I try.. it "causes" many bugs (detect lot of broken code all along, but no one knew), so I have to fix "my bugs" first, by delving in tons of code I have clue about to fix them (those other guy's faulty redo code)... this is all so painful....
I try to gather some interest on slack.. but no one is really excited by a bug finder apparently... I need to up my communication skills! 
modified 19-Aug-22 3:20am.
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Super Lloyd wrote: but no one is really excited by a bug finder apparently...
Oh man, how good I can relate to that...
I am a very very good tester, because the weirdest / most awkward situations / side effects of code always happen to me (even when I don't want them).
At a previous job, the guys programing the overarching library were always with faces saying "oh, no... not once again" everytime I got into their office and headed to their desks.
Once I even got a "why do you always come to bother us?" from a guy there... I had to bite my tongue to not answer "because you are mediocre and I always suffer the consequences of your crappy code"
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Don't shoot the messengers, we said!
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Is this your job to rally the team to fix their bugs, or the Dev Lead's job? (or are you the lead dev and/or manager?)
My point is you may not need to convince a team, just one person.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Running all the test on the farm is rather difficult.. one has to use special tools and argument which still confuses me and easily take half an hour each.. I guess spending a few days (weeks?) just running through each and all test manually, and then warn their associated team, daunts me... And apparently it's what's needed to be the Cassandra of undo units..
It is a work I came up with all by myself. I realized, looking at some of our team's test that undo unit were badly written in a subtle way. I found a way to detect such mistake.. and now I am trying to commit this bad code detector that affect everyone on our 10,000 man year codebase...
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all I can offer is: Good luck
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Quote: so I have to fix "my bugs" first, by delving in tons of code I have clue about to fix them
Are you saying your programming skills are poor for that particular task? maybe you should make a post in the 'seeking help' forums.
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you clearly never had to fix tons of bug in a 10,000 man years codebase you have no clue about...
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No I didn`t. A question does come up though, how did the software get in such a bad shape? I suspect the code was in a working state (the software was being used by the users) at the moment when you took over (one would think the software would not function at all with the source plagued by tons of bugs)
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The bug I make very clear with my code is when one undo a couple of times then redo once, they cant redo no more.... Kind of easy to overlook...
In fact it seems since I am here this kind of bug comes up every now and then in a never ending episodic fashion... Each of them being hard to track. My code make it easier to uncover them.
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What you are probably saying is that the path to failure to keep over patching an old codebase to keep it 'alive'. But that`s a guess, you`re using impossible English for me so I`m not 100% sure about the meaning of your expression of thoughts.
modified 20-Aug-22 16:30pm.
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