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(Disclaimer: Based on the forum you select for your post, I guess that you by 'ISO' mean computer related standards, networking in particular. I realize that you may be talking about all kinds of ISO standards, in any field.)

In Europe during the 1980s' protocol wars, the battle between the OSI stack and the internet IP stack was really very close. So close that my guess is that if the OSI standards documents had been freely available to anyone, and free to implement - the way the RFCs defining the internet protocols were - the OSI stack would probably have won the war. But colleges and Universities didn't have the funds to pay for those extremely costly OSI documents. For a student to obtain his own copy to use in his project work was completely out of the question.

The universities and colleges produced network guys that were convinced that the only possible way to implement a protocol was the IP based way. They had heard of the seven layers, but only as a useless description that didn't match real networks at all, not really useful for anything.

I never met a single network guy claiming that internet protocols are better engineered or designed than the OSI family. Internet won, primarily on one single "quality": Availability. You could get hold of 'specs' (some of the old ones were horrible!), you could get hold of source code implementations. You may call that a "quality", but it certainly is not a technical quality. More like a marketing quality. A sales point. And the customers went for the sales hype rather than technical design and engineering quality.

Even today, forty years later, I find that pityful.
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