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honey the codewitch22-Dec-21 11:50
mvahoney the codewitch22-Dec-21 11:50 
First, I'm talking PC applications. Embedded is a whole different animal, particularly here, since part of what I wrote is fundamentally tied to the presence of virtual memory.

Also you're talking about an unmanaged environment where you can handle your own heap, and you've provided one mechanism for doing it.

.NET uses another. It allocates a huge block as a memory pool. Allocations amount to incrementing a pointer. That's it. You pay for that on the backend through garbage collection.

A scheme just as valid as yours, on a PC with (by today's measure) a reasonable amount of RAM and decent swap.

And whether or not you can do it your way, applications may or may not do it that way. I'd argue most written in C++ probably don't do all that much custom heap stuff at all, just relying on the C and C++ libraries and however those do it.

And then there's the fact that so much of todays code is "managed" (read, garbage collected)

Please keep in mind my position isn't about how you "should" manage the heap. We could argue about that for days.

My position is about the hows and whys of the way it's done on PCs now. This isn't about ideal situations, it's about the present situation, if that makes sense.
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