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honey the codewitch15-Dec-21 1:46

15-Dec-21 1:46

I do too. I just don't want to spend the money on Win11. It's not even that I can't afford it. It's the principle. I bought Win10 (again) back in january when i bought my machine. At this point it just seems like throwing good money after bad if I make that purchase.

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Jörgen Andersson15-Dec-21 1:51

15-Dec-21 1:51

I always get the license with my hardware.
So I guess you're using a VM.
In that case you could probably make a copy of the VM that you can upgrade, then create a new VM and move that license to it.
Would have to check the license agreement to make sure though.

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honey the codewitch15-Dec-21 2:04

15-Dec-21 2:04

No, I got it with my hardware. I consider that buying it, particularly since I had the option of No operating system, or linux or windows pro (each for different $$$ - well linux was free) when I purchased the system.

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Jörgen Andersson15-Dec-21 1:54

15-Dec-21 1:54

Do you have Home or Pro?

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honey the codewitch15-Dec-21 2:02

15-Dec-21 2:02

I have home. I used to always upgrade to pro until i realized there's no point.

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Jörgen Andersson15-Dec-21 2:06

15-Dec-21 2:06

There are some points that might not affect you.

But the good news is that there's a clean install option when upgrading.

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honey the codewitch15-Dec-21 2:09

15-Dec-21 2:09

Oh, that's good to know. The issue for me then is losing all my stuff. Although I keep my Documents/Photos/Videos/Music mapped to my D: drive so at least I won't lose that.

Still, moving an OS is a huge amount of work. I think I'll wait for 11 to mature some.

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Jörgen Andersson15-Dec-21 2:12

15-Dec-21 2:12

I believe this:Free Backup Software for Windows | AOMEI Backupper Standard[^] is the one Griff usually recommends to make a complete backup of the drive.

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honey the codewitch15-Dec-21 2:39

15-Dec-21 2:39

I wouldn't need a backup of my drive so much as something that keeps all my programs and stuff installed. It's not going to happen. That means at least a day of rebuilding my environment.

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Jörgen Andersson15-Dec-21 3:15

15-Dec-21 3:15

Then an upgrade would be better.

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honey the codewitch15-Dec-21 3:18

15-Dec-21 3:18

Or I'll just wait for this install to get creaky and slow like they always do, and then spend the time rebuilding the environment. Smile | :)

That's what I usually do.

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Jörgen Andersson15-Dec-21 3:22

15-Dec-21 3:22

For me that usually coincides with getting a new computer.

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honey the codewitch15-Dec-21 3:23

15-Dec-21 3:23

I go through software a lot quicker than hardware. I buy higher end systems that will last me 10 years. I don't like replacing my machines.

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Jörgen Andersson15-Dec-21 3:28

15-Dec-21 3:28

Well I need to be able to support my systems even if I'm on vacation (Luckily that never happens, but anyway) so I need to use a laptop.
They seldom last ten years. Mine usually lasts five (with extended warranty).

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honey the codewitch15-Dec-21 3:30

15-Dec-21 3:30

I've had everything that could happen to a laptop happen to my laptop, including getting it stolen out of my home WHILE I WAS SLEEPING (made me want to get a dog)

That's why I don't buy them anymore, but then I'm not in your shoes.

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Jörgen Andersson15-Dec-21 4:24

15-Dec-21 4:24

I wouldn't use a laptop if it was for personal use. But I need to be able to lug it around. And work from both home or office.

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honey the codewitch15-Dec-21 5:22

15-Dec-21 5:22

Yeah, those were my work laptops all that ugly happened to.

I stopped using them for work because of the liability of them.

And I stopped using them at home because on principle I don't like to spend more than I want to lose on the thing, and I don't like the idea of setting even just $500 USD on a public coffee shop table. A laptop is that, but shinier.

So, it's just not for me. That and I eventually break the screen hinges from lugging it around (though in recent years laptops have gotten better in that regard)

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Super Lloyd14-Dec-21 22:50

14-Dec-21 22:50

it doesn't seem that different at first glance (except the taskbar is locked at the bottom now :/ )

But I trust it extract even more performance from the hardware...
Although I heard bug report to the contrary, it was marked as urgent bug...

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honey the codewitch15-Dec-21 1:45

15-Dec-21 1:45

Super Lloyd wrote:
it was marked as urgent bug

Thanks for reminding me why I haven't switched yet. Big Grin | :-D

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Super Lloyd15-Dec-21 1:51

15-Dec-21 1:51

only in some case with some hardware... I think, I forgot the name, but those SSD that look like a memory chip, are supposed to be slower. Got one on as my main drive though, not noticing anything (not that I am taxing the system anyway)
(by supposed to be, I mean it's a bug, of course)

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honey the codewitch15-Dec-21 2:03

15-Dec-21 2:03

Yeah, I run NVMe. If they slowed that down they can take a running jump. I'll wait for them to fix it as I tear the crap out of that drive.

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Super Lloyd15-Dec-21 1:13

15-Dec-21 1:13

I spotted a huuuuuuuUUUUUUUuuuuge problem with Windows 11.

All the windows have a new rounded corner. But my pet project app (using custom Window chrome from MahApps.Metro) still has a square border! Sigh | :sigh:

mm... I can probably get rid of MahApps.... It has a nice title bar though... (that and some minor restyling is all I use, and I mean minor)

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honey the codewitch15-Dec-21 1:43

15-Dec-21 1:43

Your app might need some kind of manifest.

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Super Lloyd15-Dec-21 1:49

15-Dec-21 1:49

Nope. It's just not supported yet....
Windows 11 integration · Issue #4140 · MahApps/MahApps.Metro · GitHub

In a few month, when the important stuff in my app works... I might see if I can contribute Smile | :)

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