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True, but that doesn't matter. What matters is that he, and everyone else in the United States, has this as a fundamental right if needed.
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You don't see the circular logic problem here?
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obermd wrote: Our second amendment was written specifically to allow us to overthrow our government if needed.
Respectfully, I would suggest that even if it was written with that intent, in the meantime said government bought a few tanks, airplanes, missiles, etc. while prohibiting the populace to buy any of them. Today your chance of "fighting the government" with guns is a bit less than zilch.
Mircea
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obermd wrote: Our second amendment was written specifically to allow us to overthrow our government if needed.
Wuahaha 
Search your "amendments" or whatever they are for nukes.
You already lost that arms race. Please stop being rediculous.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Dam right
If it's not broken, fix it until it is.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind.
Ya can't fix stupid.
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He's not the country's representative - he's Kentucky's representative. States are sovereign in the U.S.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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My husband is a member of a gun club, and they train, and provide security for events.
He doesn't pose with his weapons. To the degree that it's a hobby, he does what a normal person with a hobby like that would do, and go to the range.
One of things about this country that has been steadily eroded by lobbyists is emphasis on gun safety.
And people wonder why we get some new story every week about some moron who shouldn't have had guns or kids being blown away by their toddler.
Real programmers use butterflies
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honey the codewitch wrote: they train, and provide security for events.
That's not even allowed over here.
Only the government is allowed to handle guns, so army and police.
Security is rarely armed over here.
We do have shooting ranges, but I know very few people who've ever been there, one or two I think.
I guess this is unimaginable to many Americans, but guns simply do not exist in daily life over here.
I mean, of course they exist, but it's almost always illegal and criminal.
In 2019, someone shot some people in a tram in Utrecht, near where I work.
That's the closest I've ever been to guns.
There was also a shooting at a mall about ten years ago, people still remember it, even if they've never been there.
I think we've had one school shooting ever.
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Sander Rossel wrote: That's not even allowed over here.
Not allowed in the US either - unless the private security company is licensed and bonded.
I get the feeling that "honey" is referring to something all together different.
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People are allowed to organize militias in this country, fgs. At least in my state they are. Those militias can operate as an armed presence at part of an event where they are welcome. There is nothing illegal about that.
Google orgs like Socialist Rifle Association and the John Brown Gun Club.
We are talking about something different, clearly. Trouble is, I don't know what you're talking about.
Real programmers use butterflies
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I'll stand corrected...
...my experience is limited. I don't attend events where armed militias are needed - they sound "unhealthy".
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What's unhealthy was what happened in Charlottesville.
Where the cops did $#* all.
Real programmers use butterflies
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The CP Lounge is not the proper forum for this. In fact, CP no longer has any forum for this.
Tread lightly.
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If "opposition to white supremacist murderers" is a political issue I want the nearest shuttle off this planet.
Real programmers use butterflies
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Sorry if I seem to have opened a hornets nest
"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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It seems everything is political these days. Even decency.
It makes me a little sick. It's not your fault.
I'm just over it.
Real programmers use butterflies
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Even ignoring the crass timing, I fail to see the connection between Christmas and assault rifles ... maybe it's an "'Murican Thang".
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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If y'all understood, we may would still be British subjects.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Nah, we would have rebelled over the food at some point.
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.
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What? Oh, the portions weren't big enough?
...and it wasn't battered, extra crispy, fried to death (with extra bland yellow cheese substitute)?
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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You say that like it's a bad thing.
And barbecue too. I'm more partial to Carolina than the stuff further west.
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.
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You all can't really speak about food quality.
You all stole most of the world's spices and can't be bothered to use them.
My favorite British food is Indian food.
Real programmers use butterflies
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Maybe that's what GB is doing wrong. We kill the food before throwing it into a fryer. Y'all are heartless.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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