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obermd1-Dec-21 8:32
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I guess you have not been involved in asking the 'fixed cost' people what it costs to learn/modify the canned stuff? And, it's usually more than twice the cost of in-house. Then there's the generic/one-fits-all bloatware syndrome that requires user training (since they were not in on the development of the 'fixed stuff'.

While I agree that in-house estimates are always a problem, I would say that the people creating the bloatware had that very same problem. This will never go away because, unless you have 100% of all the business details things get changed added development time comes into play. Just ask the Agile groupies, one of its purposes is to discourage out-of-scope changes.

Oh, and when you add the additional cost of kindergarten Agile meetings, you get added costs. This was my earlier post about Agile's raising the costs of development estimates. So in that aspect I agree with you.
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