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honey the codewitch wrote: What the heck do you do with yourself at midnight
You may want to rephrase this 
Anyway, I sleep  As I often say, I am very long lasting in bed: I can sleep for 12 hours easy.
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 my innocent eyes! how dare you! *clutches pearls*
You are very fortunate. My partner is the same way. I get jealous.
Real programmers use butterflies
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Quote: I am very long lasting in bed
You may want to rephrase this
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Move to the study and close the door behind me...
Me too is at 4 - 4 1/2 hours sleeping in one run - I'm developed a pattern to work until after midnight, than sleep, than read, than work...
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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I don't have a study, although one could be arranged, with some doing. We'd have to rearrange.
My other half is a very sound sleeper, so I don't mind being in the same room as long as I have something to do. Reading is fine if I'm in the right mood to curl up with a book, but I've grown finicky as to what I'll read as I've gotten older for some reason. I'm less easily impressed maybe, and not great at tracking down impressive works.
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After being "switched on" all day (ie. coding, cooking, shopping, playing games, making plans for the coming weeks etc.) I generally reserve the evenings for "shutting down" time. This means switching off most stimulating things and cracking on some mindless TV or a background movie, then an hour or so before going to bed I'll crack open YT on my iPad and watch some really mindless videos 'til it's time to call it a night!
I tend to find without having the time to properly wind down I can end up going to sleep thinking about too much (whether it's work-related or just thinking about future plans) and in those situations I can end up being awake at 4am It's really important to draw that line at some point in the day where you can commit to shutting down the laptop/computer.
Edit Should note that my wife generally goes to bed about 4 hours before I do. With her being in the bedroom it gives me that freedom to mess around and watch stuff.
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I'm glad you found something that works for you. That's not my issue though. In my case, my sleep condition is a comorbid symptom of something I've got going on between my ears. It's neurological and not fixable, so I am learning to live with it, but the biggest challenge for me is what to do with all the empty space.
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honey the codewitch wrote: but the biggest challenge for me is what to do with all the empty space
Fill it.
I've noticed that when the brain is to tired to do actual work, there's still enough energy to fill it with knowledge.
Here's a good place to start: Curated Links • Damn Interesting[^] (It's free of ads. So if you like it you should consider a donation)
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There's nothing wrong with not needing much sleep. Up to about 15 years ago, I needed only 6 hours sleep a night, so I spent those extra hours reading whatever I didn't have time for during the day.
I would suggest that you find something (other than work) to fill in the time. This could be studying a subject (plenty of stuff is available online), craftmanship (the quiet kinds, such as knitting or jewelry making), or anything else that takes your fancy.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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- Staring into nothingness
- Looking at the tree outside the window
- Alcohol
- Depending on partner's mood/expected reaction, fooling around
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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omphaloskepsis
«The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch
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Cleaning the litter box 
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I kinda wished I had that problem.
I'm at a point in my life where no matter how much time I spend in bed, I'm pretty much always tired anyway. And I cannot simply stay in bed, say on weekends, for X amount of additional time, no matter how hard I try.
"They" keep saying 8 hours a day as the standard recommendation for an adult...and while I can stay in bed for 8 hours, there's no way I ever get 8 hours of actual sleep during that time period.
I think I got off on a tangent...what do I do with my time at midnight? During weekdays, I'm sleeping (or trying to). On weekends...I might still be playing some game or watching a movie...but if I'm still up at that time, it won't be for much longer anyway.
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Oh I'm tired all the time. I don't stay in bed. 
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Back in my college days (middle 70's) I went to a friends birthday party. Being the innocent I was back then, I ate a number of brownies snacks they had until someone told me they had hash in them. I immediately went back to the dorm, went to bed (about 10pm) and woke up at 5pm the next day!!! Maybe a magic brownie or two may help you sleep!.
On a more serious note, have you tried meditation? I can waste a good hour or more meditating.
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sasadler wrote: On a more serious note, have you tried meditation? I can waste a good hour or more meditating.
You're not selling it describing it as such...
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When I end up in a similar situation (albeit less "burned on coding" and more "brain still in overdrive from coding"), I grab my kindle. My girlfriend doesn't mind me reading at low brightness. When that doesn't help, I get up and do something explicitly passive, i.e. watching infotainment with headphones.
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You need to break this habit. I go to bed at 21:00 and get up at 05:30. I am much more productive.
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Some ideas:
- watch stars, constellations, moon etc (you might buy a telescope or even build one)
- study weather patterns and clouds by night
- study the animal kingdom at night.
- night photography (no success for me)
- redo thought experiments,
- train memory by reliving a past holiday (whatever) in as much detail as possible
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Wireless headphones are a joy. I use mine for audiobooks, podcasts, and music. If I'm antsy enough to not want to lie in bed, tightly snuggled by hubby, I play Minecraft (very calming).
If you want to actually sleep, I recommend a great podcast called 'Boring Stories for Bedtime' by Sharon Handy.
Sweet dreams ... or not 
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Yoga, meditate, read some classic tomes?
Friends I have say that Mary Jane gummies ingested late in the evening help sleep. (This stuff is now legal in my neck of the woods). 
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I have to stop coding after about 9pm. If I continue after that, I am up much of the night and wasted the next day.
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend; inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -- Groucho Marx
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