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Nelek3-Nov-21 3:50

Nelek

3-Nov-21 3:50

That's why I have never trusted their restore points.

Relative clean system partition in an image (before Norton Ghost, now Macrium), data in a separated parition / drive...
Everytime things get messed up, try to find out where or what, boot cd, restore from the last image... repare / avoid the problem, do a new image (and keep the last 5 images just in case)

M.D.V.

If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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charlieg3-Nov-21 3:51

3-Nov-21 3:51

Yep. I have the space. Christmas break is coming.

Charlie Gilley

“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

Has never been more appropriate.

Jörgen Andersson3-Nov-21 5:53

Jörgen Andersson

3-Nov-21 5:53

Restore points worked very well on Windows 7, and basically not at all on Win 10.

Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

Nelek3-Nov-21 21:56

Nelek

3-Nov-21 21:56

Jörgen Andersson wrote:
Restore points worked very well on Windows 7, and basically not at all on Win 10.

As many other things Roll eyes | :rolleyes:

M.D.V.

den2k883-Nov-21 4:04

den2k88

3-Nov-21 4:04

Restore points are and always have been as useful as a bike to a fish.

GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

Jacquers3-Nov-21 5:04

Jacquers

3-Nov-21 5:04

A restore point has helped me before Smile | :)

den2k883-Nov-21 5:08

den2k88

3-Nov-21 5:08

Me too. Once. In 19 years.

GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

Richard Andrew x644-Nov-21 12:13

Richard Andrew x64

4-Nov-21 12:13

That statistic is useless without context. It helped you once in 19 years, out of how many times you needed it to help you?

The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.

den2k884-Nov-21 22:22

den2k88

4-Nov-21 22:22

Yep, my bad. About 30-40 times - early 2000s were great.

GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

raddevus3-Nov-21 4:10

raddevus

3-Nov-21 4:10

I recently had a situation with BSOD & restore point also.
First of all, my BSOD occurred immediately after attempting to install WSL (Windows Subsystem for Linux).
Rebooted and critical BSOD occurred that couldn't be fixed.

Then the process of getting to a fixed point -- ala Restore Point -- was absolutely terrible!

All of the options that were offered were unhelpful and confusing.
Finally, I saw the choice of restore point -- but it was from a backed up restore point that was not on my machine -- tied to my account.

I had to use my phone to get a special code which was like 64 characters that I had to type into my blue screen to tell it I wanted to restore.

Also the computer name was completely different ( i have three win10 machines I manage) when I logged into my account even though it referred to the correct machine name in some places.

I finally got it to restore but it was absolutely crazy and I've been working with Windows since Win3.1

I feel sorry for new users. Or, maybe this is modern confusion that is somehow clearer to them. Roll eyes | :rolleyes:

My point is that the BSOD & restore point stuff is terribly confusing and odd and I don't know why they don't have local restore points like they had in the past.

obermd3-Nov-21 4:46

obermd

3-Nov-21 4:46

Question - how did you upgrade to the current major version of Windows (7, 8, 10)? If it wasn't with a clean install you're asking for trouble.

charlieg3-Nov-21 5:16

3-Nov-21 5:16

This machine came virgin from the maker with a clean, bloatware free, virgin Windows 10 Professional installation. It *has* had numerous upgrades over the years, but if there is rot, it's from Microsoft.

Charlie Gilley

“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

Has never been more appropriate.

charlieg4-Nov-21 2:14

4-Nov-21 2:14

here you go Microsoft, your yahoos take the cake: clowns[^]

So, I'm starting to get a handle on the BSODs I've been suffering from. Thinking hard and asking myself what changed? Well, it just so happens that Microsoft pushed out to me 21H1. Now, we all know that when one has a latptop, the laptop maker inevitably has to tweak some drivers because, well just because. Enter Windows 10 where some Microsoft clown decided that users really didn't mean to turn off driver updates. No, they must be mistaken. . Low and behold, 21H1, turned of my "don't $#$%^$&^ with my drivers setting" and updated my Synaptics driver (and in the process completely hosing it).

The Synaptics driver for my laptop is very temperamental and does not suffer updates from Microsoft at all. Updated the driver to the oem version, and turned off driver updates.

But wait, the clowns are not finished yet. If you go to the location where you turn off this setting you come to this little dialog under System Properties:

"Device installation settings
Do you want to automatically download manufacturers' apps and custom icons available for your devices?

Yes (recommended)
No (your device might not work as expected)"

Note that there is NO mention of device drivers - just "apps and custom icons".

Microsoft clowns. It's gone from being stupid to just plain lunacy.

Charlie Gilley

“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

Has never been more appropriate.

Richard Andrew x644-Nov-21 12:16

Richard Andrew x64

4-Nov-21 12:16

The average user doesn't know what a device driver is. It's all part of the dumbing down of the user interface.

The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.

charlieg4-Nov-21 15:17

UK Only - anyone on EE Standard Broadband?

4-Nov-21 15:17

sadly, I agree. But changing settings without alerting people, rebooting machines, etc - clownish.

Charlie Gilley

“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

Has never been more appropriate.

5teveH3-Nov-21 3:02

5teveH

3-Nov-21 3:02

If so, how would you rate it/them?

WSO CCC OTD 2021-11-03

OriginalGriff2-Nov-21 22:37

OriginalGriff

2-Nov-21 22:37

Spirit and resin boiling in pot? (8)

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Rich Leyshon3-Nov-21 1:41

Rich Leyshon

3-Nov-21 1:41

Well, if it was a pot of batter then it could be
Spirit: Rum
Resin: Paste
Boiling: anagram indicator
Giving TEMPURAS

But I shalln't hold my breath ...

OriginalGriff3-Nov-21 1:57

OriginalGriff

3-Nov-21 1:57

There is - we are told by educators - no such thing as a "wrong answer".

But if there was, that would be it! Laugh | :laugh:

Rich Leyshon3-Nov-21 2:10

Rich Leyshon

3-Nov-21 2:10

And now, not only am I a beacon of staggering failure but also have to quell the desperate urge for tempura prawns. D'Oh! | :doh: