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Without context, it could be either I suppose.
Developer to PM? doesn't sound that lateral to me.
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modified 3-Nov-21 11:46am.
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Terrible for me, but may be great for you. There's no one size fits all answer to this question. It depends on the individual and the organization in which they work.
/ravi
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I'd say Good, making lateral moves will get you experience in more activities of the company, which may be a gateway to a future vertical move.
All this on a purely theoretical basis as we know nothing of the place.
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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MarcusCole6833 wrote: Good or Bad Idea?
Why might be good or bad?
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No context no sensible answer - I do know of a few people who did that move and it was a disaster (me being one of them).
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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It is up to you, but it is not a move that I would make.
I made a move from developer to the 'Lead' of developers and all I ended up doing was less coding and more babysitting of other developer projects.
To me a PM would be along the same lines, less coding - more babysitting. Just not for me. I went back to my developer role and couldn't be happier. I am 64, so that also plays into my thoughts.
Good Luck!
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I can't actually answer for you but I made a lateral move about 16 years ago and it turned into the best choice I made. It lead to a more flexible and rewarding position that then developed into a promotion to a corporate level development team (I work for a fortune 50 company). Now that promotion is potentially setting me up for the likely chance at yet another promotion here in the next few years or less even.
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You ask an impossible question, as the answer depends on you.
Project management is a LOT more stress, as you will have infinite responsibility and finite authority with which to handle those responsibilities.
Can you be happy shuffling papers and answering the phone and spending even more time in meetings? Are you good at business writing, as you'll do a LOT of it. And herding cats -- did I mention herding cats?
If you're a good programmer, finding satisfaction may be difficult. There are also a LOT less PM and analyst jobs than programmers.
But it really depends on you.
A friend of mine was a good programmer, but he just didn't enjoy it. He went analyst/PM and is happy with the move 2 decades later. He's worked for a PMO (project management organization) and is currently a program manager, managing half a dozen PMs who directly manage a large number of related projects.
I made a similar move at the same time, and have some regrets. I've tried moving back into full-time programming, but my experience as a PM/BA/TA keeps pulling me back into the PM side. But it's not all bad -- I'm employed and generally happy with my career, even if there are times I'd like to be sitting in a dark room where the door has a slot for pushing pizza boxes through ...
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My 2 cents is that my previous job was officially titled "Programmer/Systems Analyst," which included the added benefit of being project manager, full stack developer, systems administrator, database administrator, and keeper of the ESX(i) servers. Pretty sure they got their money's worth; I sure learned a lot, too. Basically, make sure roles are much better defined in the future. Also, "Go not to the elves for advise for they will say both yes and no."
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your mileage will vary depending upon your own circumstances.
in my career.
I went from being a coder to being a Supervisor of a coding team.
Then side stepped into a lead dev role in a different organization.
Then jumped ship because it sucked to a PM role. It was good for quite awhile.
Then was let go and found a full time coder role again. Enjoyed it quite a bit.
Now I am a "director" (Very small team) and I get to Code, Lead and Do PM work. It works very well for me.
I really love coding. But I find that I also like having lots of influence in company technology decisions. So this role fits for me.
Everyone is different.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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I am glad to see this question asked as over the last 2 or 3 years, I have started to think about my career. I took a job 9 years ago with the idea that I would progress to a mid level dev, work up to senior role, maybe get into a team lead role. The key was I was not going to be content doing the same thing year 1 as I was year 10. Well I ended up not progressing at my place of employment. I have fixed that problem. But even with greener pastures, I still just don't get that rush and feel writing code fulltime will get me to retirement. My pursuit continues on finding that balance.
I feel like there is a niche for analysts and management with the tech background in the weeds of the products and teams one works. I feel could be more valuable than some textbook read PMP or some web certified professional thats efficient at buzzword bingo.
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As some of you know, I've been plagued by BSODs of late all down in the kernel. Swapped my ram, crashes continued, then it occurred to me - maybe the update bit me. I'll restore back to the restore point.
No restore point.
Go to system protection thinking, surely I did not turn that feature off. Nope it's on. Seems Microsoft chooses to ignore that setting when they want to.
What a bunch of clowns.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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That's why I have never trusted their restore points.
Relative clean system partition in an image (before Norton Ghost, now Macrium), data in a separated parition / drive...
Everytime things get messed up, try to find out where or what, boot cd, restore from the last image... repare / avoid the problem, do a new image (and keep the last 5 images just in case)
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Yep. I have the space. Christmas break is coming.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Restore points worked very well on Windows 7, and basically not at all on Win 10.
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Jörgen Andersson wrote: Restore points worked very well on Windows 7, and basically not at all on Win 10.
As many other things    
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Restore points are and always have been as useful as a bike to a fish.
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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A restore point has helped me before 
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Me too. Once. In 19 years.
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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That statistic is useless without context. It helped you once in 19 years, out of how many times you needed it to help you?
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Yep, my bad. About 30-40 times - early 2000s were great.
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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I recently had a situation with BSOD & restore point also.
First of all, my BSOD occurred immediately after attempting to install WSL (Windows Subsystem for Linux).
Rebooted and critical BSOD occurred that couldn't be fixed.
Then the process of getting to a fixed point -- ala Restore Point -- was absolutely terrible!
All of the options that were offered were unhelpful and confusing.
Finally, I saw the choice of restore point -- but it was from a backed up restore point that was not on my machine -- tied to my account.
I had to use my phone to get a special code which was like 64 characters that I had to type into my blue screen to tell it I wanted to restore.
Also the computer name was completely different ( i have three win10 machines I manage) when I logged into my account even though it referred to the correct machine name in some places.
I finally got it to restore but it was absolutely crazy and I've been working with Windows since Win3.1
I feel sorry for new users. Or, maybe this is modern confusion that is somehow clearer to them.
My point is that the BSOD & restore point stuff is terribly confusing and odd and I don't know why they don't have local restore points like they had in the past.
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Question - how did you upgrade to the current major version of Windows (7, 8, 10)? If it wasn't with a clean install you're asking for trouble.
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This machine came virgin from the maker with a clean, bloatware free, virgin Windows 10 Professional installation. It *has* had numerous upgrades over the years, but if there is rot, it's from Microsoft.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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here you go Microsoft, your yahoos take the cake: clowns[^]
So, I'm starting to get a handle on the BSODs I've been suffering from. Thinking hard and asking myself what changed? Well, it just so happens that Microsoft pushed out to me 21H1. Now, we all know that when one has a latptop, the laptop maker inevitably has to tweak some drivers because, well just because. Enter Windows 10 where some Microsoft clown decided that users really didn't mean to turn off driver updates. No, they must be mistaken. . Low and behold, 21H1, turned of my "don't $#$%^$&^ with my drivers setting" and updated my Synaptics driver (and in the process completely hosing it).
The Synaptics driver for my laptop is very temperamental and does not suffer updates from Microsoft at all. Updated the driver to the oem version, and turned off driver updates.
But wait, the clowns are not finished yet. If you go to the location where you turn off this setting you come to this little dialog under System Properties:
"Device installation settings
Do you want to automatically download manufacturers' apps and custom icons available for your devices?
Yes (recommended)
No (your device might not work as expected)"
Note that there is NO mention of device drivers - just "apps and custom icons".
Microsoft clowns. It's gone from being stupid to just plain lunacy.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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