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My experience with FIAT so far has been quite good, I started with a 1998's Seicento which was old, travelled and unmaintainded. It was an entry level car paid 300€ but I did make a relocation with that box. I moved to a 2003's Fiat Punto inherited by granddad and its main issues were the dozen crashes he had, a crash I had and a lot of exterior damage that was generously gifted by a plethora of idiots. Only the lack of ABS and the internal noise are bad.
Now I have this low mileage Tipo and it's a dream to drive, it's also quite fuel efficient with LPG - not so much with gas, as it has the same exact fuel consumption with either one of them, while my punto is 1.5 times more efficient with gas than with LPG.
Also my dad works in a FIAT reseller and has been a mechanic for 40 years, mainly on FIAT because well, we are in Italy, so I have quick and cheap dignaosis and fixes.
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Sander Rossel wrote: people were more inclined to buy the car with feel-good ads
I am still struggling to understand how feeding raw meat to a dog in the boot/trunk of a car is "feel good" and going to convince anyone to buy that car! 
If I have to choose between:
a) The Marketing Agency did any market research/testing.
b) They are taking the pee - and the money!
I'm going with (b)
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What do you expect? A marketing team made up of millenials is making ads to get other millenials to buy a car that has been designed for millenials. You might as well try to make sense an ad made for little furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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I'm picturing her dressed as a dominatrix, then it makes sense.
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This is one of a series of several equally inane ads. Have you looked at the car? That might explain why they don't focus on it too much!
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You'd be amazed at what sells cars. Years ago when the SUV market exploded in the USA, the #1 selling point for these vehicles (back then they were ~30K USD) was the size of the cup holders. Yeah, blew my mind too.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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5teveH wrote: TV ads
How's anyone still putting up with those, in this day and age?
The last time I watched anything on live broadcast TV was the federal election debates we had here in Canada in 2006 (and those don't have ads) - before they were available as online streams. Before that? I honestly don't remember.
That's not to say I haven't seen TV ads in other contexts - at friend's places, for example, where the TV happened to be on. And based on what I've seen, the situation hasn't improved...
You have to put value on your time, especially what little time you may have available to spend watching TV. It makes no sense to me to take a full hour to watch a show that really only lasts 40 to 42 minutes (including intro and end credits).
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Long before there was a digital headache from debugging while staring at the computer screen there was the migraine contracted from watching the television. If I recall correctly, and this is even occuring before any sports commentator has left his dental imprint in the backside of a cohabitating companion, the stupididity of advertising could be sampled wafting up and from within the tiny twists and turns of the delicate little kibble-colored earphone attached to the spring terminals of one's Heathkit crystal radio ... in the form of the "Only You can Prevent Forest Fires".
Why exactly? Because reading books like "The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe" is educational? Or that once read, riding the bus to school, in the case of a mis-flown paper airplane where the wingtip slices Paula's eye and it starts to bleed, the kid waking up in back of her will be able to render first aid because of ... the ... uhm ... thing.
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Trial of my old mate’s half-chicken recipe is crazy! (12)
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Experimental ? I gave it two hours 
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Yep! Yaum!
Trial of - Experimental
my old mate's = EX
half chicken recipe = PERI(-PERI)
is crazy = MENTAL
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That's what I thought it was ! but to be honest once I got the Ex and mental part I guessed
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Hi Derek, I don't get:- half chicken recipe = PERI(-PERI)
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Neither did I until I did a search on "peri chicken".
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Interesting - maybe it's just an English thing then... you can't walk down any High Street without every other shop being a peri-peri chicken outlet; about 50% of the (physical) junk mail that comes through the door is for these places too. Never tried it myself! 
Google peri peri chicken results for me[^]
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I'm in Surrey UK.
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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peri-peri chicken. But the word only needs half of that.
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So far, so good. But we are only at the blue "Updates are underway" screen, so there is plenty of scope for OhMyGawd to occur.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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So you're downloading on a line an update for your surface which will be written on it's system volume. We're a small step before jumping into hyperspace.
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Software Zen: delete this;
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It worked good on my Surface, you may be lucky as well 
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A looong time ago, as part of a middleware builder I wrote, it would generate SQL-DDL scripts to create tables and the stored procedures necessary to access them.
One of the things it did was use text cursors to run regular expressions over fields to validate them. Basically, it generated the SQL code to use a table based state machine to walk the fields and validate a regular expression so that if you passed a phone number or an email address in as a string it would reject invalid candidates.
The same thing happened at the middle tier, and at the front end web page, so no matter how you hit it, it would *not* let you put invalid data in the database.
I've almost never seen this done in practice elsewhere, but it has been a long time since I've done this kind of development professionally, and I was wondering how common a practice it is (maybe using some of the newfangled SQL Server features for example) to do granular field validation like that?
One reason I ask is because I have a tool that can potentially generate the SQL-DDL scripts to do this, but I don't know how useful it would be to people in practice.
Real programmers use butterflies
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Not really, but the applications I work on don't take user input. My responsibility is pretty much just ETLing data from other places into a staging database (mostly with SSIS).
There are some places where we check for IP addresses (in particular), but that's about it.
And to do IP addresses, I wrote a CLR Function which uses .net's System.Net.IPAddress class to convert to VARBINARY(16) or return null.
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Spinning up the CLR/CLI inside an RDBMS makes me feel dirty.
Real programmers use butterflies
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