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Welcome back.
You are not alone about quitting smoke. Almost 5 years here. You are right about the proudness and the envy, but good news... the envy drops too and at the end with a simple "You don't really want to start all that crap all over again, do you, idiot?" is more than enough.  
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Nelek wrote: Welcome back.
Thanks 
Nelek wrote: "You don't really want to start all that crap all over again, do you, idiot?"
I like this way of presenting things. Concise, and to the point.
Luckily, when I got my sense of smell back, a strong aversion for cold-smoke smell came with it. And remained, so far...
"Five fruits and vegetables a day? What a joke!
Personally, after the third watermelon, I'm full."
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Hi, welcome back ! Nothing changed here.
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Hi Rage, thanks a lot.
I like to see that good traditions have remained on the Lounge; and bad ones on QA 
"Five fruits and vegetables a day? What a joke!
Personally, after the third watermelon, I'm full."
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Limited edition = Mag ( magazine )
Food = pie
Flier = Magpie
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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It was twenty years ago today, Microsoft taught XP to play! (With apologies to the Beatles  )
Are you, or any of your customers, clients or friends still using XP?
Entropy will win in the end.
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I have an elderly PC, more or less from scrap, that still is running XP. These days I only use it as terminal for the Elves or to toast ROMs, that kind of stuff.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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I still have it in two VMs (one clean--but updated with the latest--the other with VS2008, I believe), but neither have been powered on in years.
I still maintain that XP, with the Classic Windows theme, was one of the most usable UIs MS has come up with.
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We probably/maybe have a couple of them in an industrial settings that still use XP (but I might be wrong).
Long product life cycle in aerospace does not agree with software updates when everything is working fine.
CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair
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I can fully relate to that, just hope they're disconnected.
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Yes, in a VM. It runs an occasionally used Visual FoxPro application.
>64
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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It's been going in and out of style
But it was guaranteed to raise a smile
The less you need, the more you have.
Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally.
JaxCoder.com
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One old Latitude with a serial port, runs the software to talk to A-B SLC500s. Used to get a robot cell running. ( This year, got a shrinker up in 2019. )
VM on the newer Dell used to program a head secure multiple for Ford.
Do maintenance on old industrial equipment you need old stuff.
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I coded the screen that comes up when you click My Computer|Manage...
It was a rewrite from the old one, because it sat on top of WMI. It's harder to keep an interface the same than it is to improve on it - that was my takeaway from that. I hated having to duplicate the old UI on the new UI, if that makes sense.
Real programmers use butterflies
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I have a couple of VMs, not connected to the Internet, that use it. My father has a machine that he refuses to upgrade from Windows XP ("if it's not broken, why fix it?")
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I am daily. Development tools dictate it.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Ditto.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Me too!
Entropy will win in the end
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Yes I have it on a Netbook which is around 10 years old.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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I know for a fact a scary number of embedded systems use XPe (Air traffic control monitors, Aircraft carriers, railway signals and on) , whch was part of the reason it was kept so long. 
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I'm not so sure that is scary. I have developed on WinCE for a very long time - because the hardware never changes, the systems are incredibly stable. Now, my code? 
I would much rather have CE or XPe than Windows NT... NT Leaves Navy ship Dead in the water.[^]
of course this is a long time ago. The biggest issue I've seen for us is that users (factory workers, engineers, scientists, etc) use these control systems as if they were simple PCs. I've gotten back storage that was completely corrupted by viruses. Iran lost a number of centrifuges due to Stuxnet - almost certainly introduced when some intelligent person plugged in an unknown USB drive to a control system computer.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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The fact you could use VB & C# on something embedded was a big shock to me. I come from an Electronics & Low level back ground. Mind you the Stuxnet thing meant now we don't leave USB ports physically accessable. Upgrading stuff on the shop floor has gone from emailing a file to having to go down physically remove the lid (many security things to make life difficult) find the header, plug a USB header in, boot the system and upgrade! 
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Agreed. Many high security locations epoxy the USB ports.
Many years ago, I worked on an USAF Afb supporting and developing for Vaxes. The DOD ran a security sweep doing two things. First, they attempted to penetrate any system they saw on the network. At the time, they could not get past the VMS security, but they found numerous Unix machines wide open with unpatched issues.
So, they hacked in, modified the login screen or some other obvious place to say something like "You've been hacked, please call the base security office (insert phone # here) immediately!"
And then they waited. And no one called.  I think a key part of security is simply paying attention.
The also did another test. They created many thousands of infected USB drives and leave them in parking lots, bathrooms, etc. Even though security protocols dictated to turn in these devices to security, it was uncanny how many really smart people shoved them into their machines, cause, you know, I just got to know.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Just thinking, I ought to pay attention to the log in screen...
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I have an old service manual app for my old car (1999) that comes in a XP virtual machine.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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