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Yes, and they'll make sure to tell everybody about it! 
Hogan
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I want to, but after last years dramatically emotional event with Panos Panay almost in tears as he talked about their amazing grey laptops and Microsoft branded Android devices, I'm just not sure I can take it.
Having said that, it does at least contrast with the scary fixed smiles of the Apple event last week.
Microsoft Surface Event at 11am Eastern US
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Sorry, I'm not big on coprorate (not a refuse) brainwashing and/or extended ads. I know I sometimes lose some good news and good trend but... no.
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Microsoft event: Nope - I don't personally own a Windows PC... and my employer provides Dell laptops (FBOW).
Apple event: Is it just me or do the pre-recorded Apple events have even more fluff and less substance than the live Apple events? I wouldn't have thought it was possible but there ya go.
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No, but I've heard a lot of positive reviews about this.
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- Wow the camera bump on the Duo. I was thinking "that thing isn't going to fit in a pocket". I was proven wrong as that guy slipped it into his bucket sized pocket. It's nothing wrong with the phone: you're just using the wrong pocket.
- They are still using their proprietary charger on the surface devices. Even Apple are slowly and surely moving to USB-C. I'm simply never going to buy another portable device that requires anything other than a common charger (which today means I'm all-in on USB-C)
- Please stop the camera shot where the person isn't looking at the camera. Am I suddenly that boring you don't want to look at me anymore, or is it simply this person just has been in lockdown so long they find it hard to meet someone's gaze.
- Surface Laptop Studio is a chunky Monkey. I think Panos is going to start crying about it.
Extra:
- Microsoft have gone full DELL. When you hit their Surface site they present a popup asking if it's for home or business. That seems grossly tone deaf given where everyone's been working these past 19 months. And: I don't even understand the effect that choice will have on me. Do I get shown the crappy devices if I choose home?
My feeling is Microsoft is working to throw in every feature they can. It looks and feels like something designed by engineers. Apple is busy removing buttons, removing externalities. Microsoft is working to make laptops more...fussy?
Microsoft seem like a company running as fast as they can. And they are running fast, very fast. They don't seem to be stopping and asking where they are running towards. It feels frantic.
cheers
Chris Maunder
modified 22-Sep-21 11:53am.
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Microsoft is for those that still like to read a service manual once in a while and change their own oil. Apple is for those that just tap the fuel gauge to see if it's working.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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Apple is for those who say "fuel? What fuel?"
Software Zen: delete this;
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Chris Maunder wrote: I don't even understand the effect that choice will have on me. Do I get shown the crappy devices if I choose home?
Windows Home vs Pro? Is that a thing, for Surface devices?
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No, I mean "home" vs "business". When you go to the Surface homepage that's your choice.
They are pushing Surface Pro for biz and Surface Go for home, because you never, ever need power at home, right? Said no one in lockdown ever.
I really admire Apple's angle: we have an M1 chip. We're just going to put that in everything, even our iPad you use for reading recipes in the kitchen. And you're going to want to pay for it. Not because you need the power: you've had enough power for over a decade. You'll buy it because you can.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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We've discovered the Surface Pro 7 can be charged via the USB-C port on the machine. Also, in defense of Microsoft's proprietary docking/charge port, it hasn't changed since the Surface Pro 3.
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obermd wrote: Pro 7 can be charged via the USB-C port on the machine
So why have a $100 proprietary charger? They should just make the call and standardise.
obermd wrote: hasn't changed since the Surface Pro 3
Exactly. They are now at v8. They should have switched long ago.
With Microsoft aligning more and more with Android I'm frankly surprised they aren't following the lead with Android devices in moving to USB-C. Removing the charger saves packaging, saves another piece of landfill, and would help them push their story of being environmentally awesome. Sea plastic is cool and all that, but how about not producing waste in the first place? Apple did it. Samsung did it. But continuing on, 5 generations later, with the hang-on-I-need-to-turn-it-upside-down connector makes it feel like they are missing the boat.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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This could have been a call for a snarky comment on iPhones.
But I think I will refrain. 
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Looks like t EU is putting an end to that particular annoyance! (yay)
cheers
Chris Maunder
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I would hope that home / business choice is Windows Home vs Windows Pro.
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No.
I leave it to tech journalists to sort it out and summarize in half a dozen bullet points.
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OMG - I clicked ahead, and the "built for you, for people with the future in mind" and so forth, with emotional music and impassioned delivery, such melancholy is his voice, such feeling...
![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif) I'm crying just thinking about how much Microsoft cares about my future and well being and connectivity and productivity.
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Marc Clifton wrote: Microsoft cares about my future
I just threw up in my mouth so hard I dislodged a crown.
Software Zen: delete this;
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I watched a bit of the beginning and the chap presenting did look like he was about to cry a few times.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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"Mm a chai latte", said a Michael Matt. What's his formula? (12)
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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MATHEMATICAL
(anag * 2)
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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YAUT! Back to cooking - coquilles st jacques tonight. Mash and silverbeet.
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Sounds good.
I'll be "enjoying" a salad. Herself is dieting. 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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And the answer is also an anagram of the other anagrams - good clue
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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