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Thanks. The Vari's seem to be popular.
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If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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I have one of the electric standing desks from Vari. I vary the height of the desk from the seated position to the full-standing position at least twice a day (usually more) to get rid of leg stiffness caused by sitting for long periods of time. I'm pretty tall (190.5 cm = 6' 3"), and I find the highest position of the desk (123 cm = 4' 0.5") comfortable. Spec's now say that the desks go up to 128 cm (4' 2.4") max height. Have a small PC and two monitors, plus some books - it's pretty stable, but I wouldn't call it "rock solid". I'd recommend getting an industrial, padded mat to stand on for additional comfort. There's also those VariDesk converters (VariDesk 36) - had to raise it to it's maximum height and it was still a little short for me on the standard desk it was placed upon. Again, I would say it was pretty stable, but not "rock solid" and shakier than the full-blown electric desks. The do have the VariDesk Tall 40, but when I was looking, the reviews were not great, stating the desk was unstable at max height and the mouse/keyboard tray wasn't very ergonomic. Hope this helps.
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Get a stand/sit desk. I have one from Autonomous[^]. It's great. I start in the morning with it standing. Lower it as I get tired. For sitting you can adjust for any height chair. I would recommend the SmartDesk Pro. Also, get a good mat to stand on.
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Got a flexispot for my home-office two weeks ago with a custom table-top. Switch to standing about twice a day. Works well so far.
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My first attempt at getting a standing desk at work ended up with my carpenter-minded boss saying, "I could build you one". Not the best option at the time. So when my new boss took over, a standing desk was one of my first requests. I ended up with an Ergodesk standing desk. It's sturdy and it was one of the first entrants into the standing desk arena. It is sturdy but that comes at a price - I have to raise and lower it myself by turning knobs and re-tightening them.
Since I was one of the first to get a standing desk, several others have requested them. Our entity has chosen Varidesk for the ease of raising and lowering the desk, which is key to actually using it. If it's a pain to raise and lower it, you just won't do it.
When we all went home to work because of the plague  , I purchased a pneumatic desk from Office Depot, which has been surprisingly good!
Sitting is the new smoking, so kudos to you for looking for healthy options!
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I don't use one myself and I have a mess of wires on my desk and I have a basic chair and desk that don't collapse.....
BUT!
I have bought the "WorkFit-Z Mini Sit-Stand Desk" for three of my employees.
Each of them really likes it, it is easy to raise and lower, and when it is down, it doesn't impinge much on the desk working space. I will likely eventually get one for myself.
The additional benefit is that it is a lot less effort to try out than some of the pneumatic tables!
"Qulatiy is Job #1"
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I like my versadesk. It sits on top of my normal desk. I didn't like the button on the top though so I remounted it on the front.
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I use a standing desk all day, every work day.
I have an electric Brateck Lumi desk that cost about NZ$600 (~US$420). It is a decent desk with a 100kg weight allowance.
I used to have a manual wind desk, but that was just hard work and at the time I didn't have much stamina.
As for advice on the actual standing part...
- I would make sure you are eating well and getting all of the vitamins you need. (I was low in vitamin D and it really affected my stamina.)
- Eat breakfast!
- Wear comfortable shoes.
- Get an anti-fatigue mat if your standing position is on a hard surface.
- Have a chair nearby for rests.
- If you're prone to lower back pain, then don't be! Read 'Healing Back Pain' by John Sarno. It'll change your life if you're ready to believe.
- If you're prone to lower back pain, here's a greeeeeat stretch:
1. Get 2 x wedges, large enough for to stand on. The angle of the wedges should be around 22.5-25 degrees.
2. Place them both sloping outwards (like a house ridge), but a little apart.
3. Stand one foot on each, with the outside of each foot parallel with the side of the wedge.
4. Bend knees slightly, push knees out to side with consistent pressure, and hang forwards at the waist.
5. Position your bottom above your feet. The ideal position is where you're almost teetering forwards.
6. Maintain outward pressure at knees and slightly bent knees.
7. Hang for a couple of minutes.
8. Rest.
9. Repeat.
10. Do back flips because your lower back has eased.
Any more questions let me know.
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You probably will find that you want an automatically (motor) adjustable desk. Needs to go high enough to stand and then back to sitting.
I had at one one time one that went low enough that I could sit on the floor. I enjoyed the change in posture (standing, sitting in chair, then on floor.)
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Does any one or specifically, @code-witch know where I might find a complete grammar for javascript in EBNF form?
Admonisions telling me to google it are best left unposted. I've been googling all morning.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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*lol* only _well formed_ languages can be expressed in EBNF 
[Edit]
And because you are not able to google or overloaded with the results, take this:
BNF for EcmaScript.jj[^]
..and no, EBNF for javascript will _not_ be easy to go through
modified 27-Sep-21 21:01pm.
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You are the parsing/language master here Observed by me since ... and you are really good on that, at least for me 
modified 27-Sep-21 21:01pm.
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Thanks!
I knew you would be the one to have such a thing or know where to get it. I am grateful.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Good luck in your endeavor. I hope you don't have to interpret that language!
Real programmers use butterflies
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Thanks again. I'm going to use the grammar to drive an infragistics syntax highlighting control. And to parse it so that I can format it from minified into readable form.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Forgive me, but a grammar isn't the best way to approach that.
Syntax highlighting is usually done these days in pro systems using a combination of regular expressions and anchors.
Minification is done even more easily, simply by tossing out whitespace around most tokens and skipping strings. You barely need to lex.
A grammar is going to make it slow, hard to debug, and a lot harder to code. Just my $0.02. Been to this rodeo a few times.
Real programmers use butterflies
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I do appreciate the advice.
What is your recommendation, given that lexing and parsing are beyond me right now. I don't know enough about either one.
But I have this Infragistics control and it uses EBNF files to highlight and parse. Right now it looks like my best option.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Well if you already have a control that uses EBNF grammars, go ahead and use that, I suppose.
Except i doubt it will handle comments properly for reasons. You'll want to check. particularly with /* */ in the middle of wo/*like this*/rds
I'd have probably used ICSharpCode.AvalonEdit if i was starting from scratch but that would just be a starting point for me.
Your minification shouldn't use it at all i think though.
What you'll want to do is make code that skips javascript strings and comments.
And then from there you'll want to take what's left over and reduce all whitespace runs to a single space. If you want to get more minified than that you can eliminate all space except when two identifiers are next to each other.
Real programmers use butterflies
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Wow. It sounds like you like your pain in large doses. Do you golf as well?
Software Zen: delete this;
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 I like imagining that I'm doing worthwhile stuff. Whether I really am, is anybody's guess.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Thank you very much volunteers to let that through, most probably Paul or Richard or Nelek
modified 27-Sep-21 21:01pm.
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