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That is a very bad way to think about that. RAID is NOT backup. That is a very, very important thing to remember. RAID just gives you redundant media so the MTBF is better but it is NOT backup.
To repeat myself because this is important : RAID is NOT backup.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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We have used Synology's with good luck. Got a 4 banger that has been solid for several years.
I just took an old workstation and converted it with Truenas. Supports RAID. SFSG.
As those drives got old, hard to rely on them. I just bite the bullet and drill a hole in the platters and discard in the electronic waste bin at the local haz. waste place.
>64
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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I'd buy some cheap USB enclosures and use them as additional off-line backups.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I've been using a Drobo5N2 for about 4 years now. Well there was a gap in the middle. The drive held my ripped collection of DVD's that I could watch on Plex and some backups.
The gap came from an issue after a firmware upgrade. I couldn't mount the drives anymore. The unit was out of warranty, so I tried several steps on my own and could not get it to recover. It sat for over a year mocking me.
I don't remember everything I did to try and recover, but near the end I know I pulled drives trying to get it to rebuild, which it did, but still would not mount. When I got back to it I did another firmware upgrade, still no love.
So I decided I would pay for a support call. Turns out they never charged me nor even ask for a credit card. One of my drives may have caused an initial problem that was exacerbated when the firmware update rebooted the box. I didn't see anything in the later firmware notes, but I assume there was something that was fixed later.
Drobo support was able to point me to some publicly available tools to get things working again. The support was done over their support messaging system. It took a couple of days of back and forth, but was very helpful and ended in success.
My point to all of this is that I expected to have to start over with an empty Drobo. But even with all of the drive pulling I did when I figured I didn't have anything to lose, the system maintained integrity. I didn't loose any data.
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Rocket For The Ceo - Dilbert[^] 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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And now we know why Blue Origin launched Bezos and not a monkey.
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obermd wrote: Bezos and not a monkey.
If he wasn't so bald... the similarities could be astounding.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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I've been noticing that when I order (always over $25 to get the free shipping), the checkout page always has the expensive shipping as pre-selected.  Obviously, the idea is for unsuspecting folks to accidentally pay for shipping.
Another thing I've noticed (although this is marketing, not website design) is a lot of stuff priced exactly $24.99. Fortunately, there always seems to be something stupid that obviously hasn't been moving that they are trying to get rid of that costs about $1.
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We have Prime (about $107 per year) which gives us Prime Video and free next day shipping (on most items).
This is handy: I bought two mains plugs yesterday from Amazon rather than drive to the shops to buy them for the same price ... they'll be here this morning.
I have noticed that they do try to get you to put things on a scheduled monthly delivery rather than a one off purchase though.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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... and of course you really need two mains plugs a month until forever.
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Griff's cat is crazy about plugs
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OriginalGriff wrote: free next day shipping
We always make sure to select "same day" shipping when it's available. Make them work for their money! 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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What's perhaps more evil is that consumers now expect cheap products and free shipping, however the products ain't cheap and the shipping ain't free!
Someone is getting a really bad deal out of this (but probably just profitable enough to not turn it down) and I don't suspect it's Amazon.
It's probably for those who'd rather have something than nothing, but it's probably no fair pay.
But whatevs, you get your cake and eat it too (and then complain on the interwebs)
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I have Amazon Prime (same benefits Griff mentioned), so your issue is not an issue for me. I wouldn't say their website design is evil as much as it is geared to make $$$. If money is truly evil to you, then I can see why you feel that way. I don't think money is evil. I think people can be evil.
However, I "try" to be a conscientious buyer and I almost always take the longest delivery time they offer.
As much as I love the convenience of Amazon shopping, I am appalled by the scandals and the working conditions a lot of the employees have to endure.
I want my purchases to show up soon, but I don't want anyone breaking their back to make that happen.
I agree with others, the constant herding buyers into a monthly auto-subscription is a PITA. I am currently only using this on one item, and it is a medical accessory item for my diabetes that I need every month.
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Slacker007 wrote: I don't think money is evil. I think people can be evil.
can? Do you see the news? 
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
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I think you you check you'll discover the option you get is always for the fastest shipping. I've noticed this on other sites as well and it's always for the fastest shipping.
Personally I frequently grab the slowest shipping at Amazon so I can build credit for music and ebook purchases, which I use heavily.
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From the comments:
Wonder how long it took to render all the frames and what hardware is was rendered on.
About 2 weeks rendering all up, on a 16C/32T CPU. I wouldn't try it on my old Amaiga 500.
I didn't see him mention anything about what math library or program was used, but I didn't peruse all of them, either.
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Wow 
2 weeks, 16 cores, ?? GHz... That's an eye-watering number of cpu-cycles. 
Thanks for posting this, the thread's been fun.
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I hate that, once I get down a minimal level I want to know what going on elsewhere
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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You could spend the rest of your life following those 'elsewheres'! 
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Today I and Herself fetched our grandson from school. He complained he was dizzy and not feeling well. He coughed and sneezed in the car, although he was wearing a mask. He had a mild fever.
His father rushed him to the doctor and he tested positive for Covid. He is only nine and was too young to be vaccinated, although all adults in our family are fully vaccinated. But we are all under quarantine for two weeks. Now comes the long wait to see him recover and to see if anyone else in the family shows symptoms.
This virus really sucks big time! 
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
modified 20-Aug-21 17:42pm.
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Hoping his recovery is swift and smooth! ![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.freetls.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
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