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PIEBALDconsult18-Aug-21 9:05
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GeneralWhen you're missing a front-end Pin
honey the codewitch18-Aug-21 4:00
mvahoney the codewitch18-Aug-21 4:00 
I've taken to modding fallout 4, and wow is it laborious.

There are so many interlinked forms, tables, and objects all entered through a kind of clunky data entry UI. It took me all night to extend the Strength perk tree (if you play you know what this is) so perks have ranks going all the way up to level 100, and I'm still not quite done with it.

Imagine having to code in C#, except instead of writing code, you had a data entry form with a table of classes in it, a table with methods for the classes in it each with an associated parent class id, and in *those methods* you could write actual code. That's what it's like, only there are dozens of tables for different kinds of "classes" (kind of like C# has enums and interfaces except on steroids)

Bethesda really needs a front end so you can write your data in some sort of declarative language and then compile it into an esp/esl/esm data file.

I can only imagine how many hours could have been saved developing this game for want of better tools.

Parsers are useful. More accurately, compiler front ends are useful. Coulda used one here.
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Generalre-installed VS: NuGet nor loading ? ... try this Pin
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