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GeneralPurchasing conditions? Pin
Sander Rossel26-Jul-21 1:24
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So I got an email from a potential client who wanted a quotation for some software.
Bit weird, called them, had a conversation on who they are, who I am, what I can do and what they want exactly.
I mean, this isn't like ordering a new TV, we're talking serious money and a long term commitment here.
Not to mention custom software, so I really need to know what they want me to write (they did send a functional design, but it never hurts to talk to the people behind it).

So anyway, I was able to send them a quotation and they immediately rejected it because they don't agree to my terms and conditions because they had their own conditions for suppliers.
They usually order mechanical parts and their conditions were geared (pun intended) towards parts suppliers.
Stuff like they're not responsible for damages and they can cancel orders when the delivery is late or when they want to change their order and the additional costs seem unreasonable to them...
Called them and said I can't agree to those terms since this is software were talking about, not mechanical parts.
Heck, my insurance won't even cover any damages if I agree to their terms.
We're now looking for conditions that work for both parties, so I'm hoping we can work it out and I get a new customer.

Did you ever get asked to work for a client on their conditions?
I can imagine it being standard in some industries, but I've never heard about it for software (unless you're a freelance contractor, in which case you practically always sign an employer's contract).
For the record, I'm not a freelance contractor, I take on the entire project, develop it in-house and deliver it when it's done (or in parts).
When it's done I deliver support and maintenance at an hourly rate (or fixed price if a change is big enough).

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