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My 15 year old son complains about similar issues.
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Recently wanted to do some online gaming, Borderlands 3, with a friend, from around 20:00 to 22:00.
He was running late, so we'd start somewhere between 20:15 and 20:30.
Except there was an update pending and it's required if you want to make use of its network capabilities.
Half an hour later we finally got to gaming.
Last weekend I told a friend about an awesome game I'd played on the PS4, Horizon: Zero Dawn.
I'd show it to him, but I'd have to install it first, because I had to de-install it because a PS4 only has so much room for games.
But I couldn't install it because I'd have to de-install something first...
Gone are the good old days where you'd just insert a disc and get to gaming! 
Of course it's not all bad, but it's not all better either.
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In those 'good old days' we inserted a tape and waited for ages - but didn't know better 
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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Ah, the days of sequential reads. I can still hear the tape spinning back and forth. 
"When you are dead, you won't even know that you are dead. It's a pain only felt by others; same thing when you are stupid."
Ignorant - An individual without knowledge, but is willing to learn.
Stupid - An individual without knowledge and is incapable of learning.
Idiot - An individual without knowledge and allows social media to do the thinking for them.
modified 19-Nov-21 21:01pm.
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I think it was "Uncle Bob" Martin, in his book Clean Architecture, who describes one of those tapes, or probably it's pre-pre-predecessor, a disc, shooting through a wall over the parking lot 
No way in hell a downloaded game could do that 
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How big is the update? I'll probably fire up the game in the middle of the afternoon so everything's ready by evening...
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Not sure - but it wasn't small and restarted the Rockstar loader a dozen or more times.
The Tuner edition adds races and missions, and a new property to purchase: the Autoshop
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OriginalGriff wrote: new property to purchase: the Autoshop
Any new garages? I just need extra storage space. I have all the largest garages you can own, and I'm literally out of room. I wish you could drive any vehicle to any location in a garage, rather than having them assigned to a fixed "slot". A 10-car garage could hold more like 25.
Years ago, after I bought all the essentials, I had set a goal of buying all the vehicles that were discounted on a given week (that I didn't already have, obviously). This is where that got me.
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I've bought one car - other than the freebies - because I quite like the Issi and it was cheap. The rest of my garages are full of podium wins ... including two Overflod Entity XF's that I won in successive weeks and assumed was a bug.
My "daily driver"? The Revolter I won in April.
But I bought an Oppressor 2 to make grinding easier (boy, does it ever) and most of the time I zap around on that. Only killed one player with it (he decided to griefer me when I was standing beside it, so I killed him three times to make a point. )
Haven't finished Cayo Perico yet - the first setup takes forever and I haven't had that big a single block of time yet.
Trying to decide if I get a Hanger at Fort Zancudo (so I can fly over / into it) or an Auto shop at the moment.
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OriginalGriff wrote: I bought an Oppressor 2 to make grinding easier (boy, does it ever)
Agreed, it changed the gameplay altogether for me - and I grind a lot. But people definitely abuse it.
OriginalGriff wrote: Haven't finished Cayo Perico yet - the first setup takes forever and I haven't had that big a single block of time yet.
Once you get the hang of it, it's the best way to make cash quickly. If you do it solo, the worst you can do is $900K.
OriginalGriff wrote: Trying to decide if I get a Hanger at Fort Zancudo (so I can fly over / into it)
For me, that was the only reason to get a hangar. I don't like the hangar missions, but having free access to the base made it a no-brainer.
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4.35GB, according to the launcher. My pitiful connection lets me pull down roughly 2GB an hour, so assuming I don't encounter any slowdowns, or none of my machines suddenly decides to download something, it'll be done early evening for me...
Wasn't there a GTA update that weighted in at 13GB? Somehow that figure stuck in my head...
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The first download needs - gulp - 95GB so 13GB for an update wouldn't surprise me.
I remember when Doom II coming on 5 floppies was a OMG moment ...
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OriginalGriff wrote: The first download needs - gulp - 95GB
I imagine that's going from a recent clean install. I would've remembered that figure if I would've had to pull down nearly 100GB in one go. That'd be saturating my bandwidth for over two days, assuming nothing else. Completely impractical.
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Yep - March or April this year. It was huge, but it came down to me at 4.5Mbs so it was done overnight.
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Now imagine the charges if you were using your phone.
It boggles the mind that you can get data plans in the hundreds of GBs from most ISPs, but for a smartphone, 10GB is considered "excessive".
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What does "GTA V" mean?
I hate acronyms
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It's a game: Grand Theft Auto Five[^] - multiplayer, open world, you do what you want when you want (if you have the in-game money to afford it).
Surprisingly good game!
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OriginalGriff wrote: Surprisingly good game!
+1
It took me years to warm up to the online experience - in any game - the thought being, I don't have the time for constantly getting shot down by 12-year olds who have nothing better to do than practice their aim all day.
Truth is, while that can happen, if it's a problem, you can just change sessions. The game's certainly got a grind factor, but if you enjoy the missions, it's a huge time-sink. I don't play any other game...
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So I'm writing a system that deals with so-called UBNs (Unique Bedrijfs/Company Numbers).
The value is 7 characters long for Dutch companies in the branch I'm working for.
However... Some aren't, so you get a leading 0, like 0123456.
Now, I have an import, which does not give me the leading 0.
As a result my customer omitted the leading 0 from their master data as well.
However, we have a service that customers connect to, which does use the leading 0.
So, made a fix for the import and forced this UBN to be at least 7 characters, problem solved...
Except that I just found out some third party software does not include a leading 0 when accessing our service (even though it's set in the settings!) 
Event their logs show the leading 0, but my logs say differently.
Who the hell comes up with this sh*t? 
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It's a number that all companies have, so I think I know whence it came.
It's also unsurprising that different systems treat it differently, causing interworking problems. The joy of software.
And ![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif) too, but I couldn't help but find this amusing!
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Greg Utas wrote: but I couldn't help but find this amusing!
It would be if it didn't happen to me 
Leading zeroes always make me nervous, this isn't the first time I've run into this problem 
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Sander Rossel wrote: Who the hell comes up with this sh*t?
They 'all' do. And the sooner 'they' can be replaced with AI, the better. Because right now we only get genuine stupidity! 
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Optimist. With our luck we only get AS, not AI.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Sander Rossel wrote: Who the hell comes up with this sh*t?
Ah, a question for the ages.
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The same thing happens with Israeli ID numbers. Numbers issued in the last 40-odd years have 9 digits, of which the first encodes the type (company, person born in Israel, person born abroad, etc.), 7 are the ID, and the last is a checksum digit. The first digit is never a zero.
The older 7-digit ID numbers were expanded to 9 digits by padding the number on the left with zeros, and adding the checksum digit. For some old-timers, this leads to an interesting ID number such as 000012345.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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