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Got a most excellent fortune cookie (admittedly, most are more instructive than informative)>
"The memory of bad quality lasts longer than the shock of high prices".
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Sounds true, and, ... somehow I got a thought that "quality sells itself" ... 
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These days this might be appropriate; Quality, Cost, Availability, pick 2.
The less you need, the more you have.
Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load?
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Mike Hankey wrote: These days this might be appropriate; Quality, Cost, Availability, pick 2.
These days? I am saying that for at least the last 10 years.
Ok. To be honest, I actually say: Quality, Price, Speed (deadline reduction)
Is my "Speed" the same as your "Availability"?
M.D.V. 
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True, but more so since lockdown as everything has become harder to get.the
The less you need, the more you have.
Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load?
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Forget the cookie. Read the remaining tealeaves in your drained cup! They are more reliable! 
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Subtitle: "My experience with Open Source".
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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TOTALLY NOT !
GIMP 2, Audacity, Libre, FireFox, . . .
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Buy once, cry once!
"Fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children the dragons can be killed."
- G.K. Chesterton
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You need to catch up. He's got what, 2 or 3 albums following that?
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this desktop was working in year 2001, but could not power up in 2002. Now I get some time to work on this PC and back up some personal data from it.
any idea for not powering up? CMOS battery failed?
diligent hands rule....
modified 18-Jul-21 1:43am.
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Pull or disconnect the main battery and try to then start it from the charger.
If that works and with old hp's it does 99% of the time, then shut down the os
gracefully and then reinsert or reattach the battery and soldier on.
If that doesn't work try disconnecting the battery and hold down the power button for about 30 seconds then try it from the charger......
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desktop
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Change out the CMOS, if possible and give it a try to power up. It's likely not going to improve the situation.
It's more likely you're got a bad power supply or motherboard, probably due to bad capacitors.
If you really need the data, the cheapest way to get it is to take the drive out and put it into an enclosure or hard drive dock for your type of drive. It'll connect to a new machine over USB and you can get the data.
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Dave Kreskowiak wrote: the cheapest way to get it is to take the drive out and put it into an enclosure or hard drive dock for your type of drive. It'll connect to a new machine over USB and you can get the data.
 exactly
M.D.V.
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good info! thank you!
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That's far too broad a question for any kind of specific answer: "won't power up" could mean anything.
Start with what it does do: Do lights come on? Does it beep? Do you get anything on the display? Does Windows try to load?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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no any light, no any beep
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First premise then is dead PSU or blown fuse. If you have a multimeter, I'd start by disconnecting all the PSU cables and checking the 5V and 12V rails. Nothing there means the PSU is dead or the plug fuse (if fitted, they are in the UK) is blown.
If that shows good values, then the motherboard is fried and I'd try a USB IDE/PATA/SATA/ disk reader to see if it's still alive - I'd not connect it directly to any computer I actually liked, which is why I have one of those readers ... they are pretty cheap from Fleabay / Hamazon.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Got it! Thank you OG!
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Back in the dark ages, IBM came out to do a new computer installation for us at the college. They simply could not get the disk drives to power up. After a few minutes, I asked them, "Are they plugged in?" The two CEs looked at each other and then started popping up the floor tiles. They were surprised to see that they had failed to plug the drives in!
Moral: Check the obvious things first: AC power, cord, fuse, power supply...etc.
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19 years  i agree, dropping the HDD into a temporary USB case or different box to retrieve the data might be most practical, unless you have other antique boxes you can scavenge parts from.
Ha, you beat out my best roun'toit record. <grin> You are correct that the cmos battery will need changing first off. Count beeps if any, note any MB LEDs that light up, then search for beep codes and a MB Manual.pdf for that model.
May very likely also need to borrow/swap out the PSU from a different old beater box, before buying a new one.
Good luck ~John
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I moved from east coast to west coast....
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