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You've been here long enough to know that Griff just had us all switch to AOMEI over the years.
I bet that I see a reply from him while I am slowly typing this.
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I'm glad I didn't see that first - I'd have kept schtum and won the bet! 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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OriginalGriff wrote: kept schtum
+5 for the Yiddish. I certainly didn't expect to see Yiddish in the wilds of Wales. 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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You are right... you are right.
In fact I tried to get AOMEI first, but I had problems with my international VAT number and was not capable to get it, therefore I searched for another option. Clearly that was the longest possible way to AOMEI... 
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yes, and maybe there are not enough.
FFS... 25% reliability. 
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I use a free version of AMOMEI - and it just works and does what I want it to. Job done - at a very reasonable price.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Yes, in fact the only difference from the free version that I am interested into is the possibility to start the backup triggered by the shut down event, that way it starts the backup while windows OS is shutting down every day, without human intervention.
the only way I can be sure that backup task will run everyday.
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My absolute favorite is the free version of Macrium Reflect. I have used it over a hundred times with zero issues.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Same here. I have a nightly Reflect backup job that just works.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Is the free version capable to launch the backup task when the operating system is shut down?
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The built-in scheduling doesn't appear to let you schedule a backup for shutdown events.
Another option would be to create a backup plan that shuts down the computer when the process is complete. You can invoke the plan from a batch file if you'd like a "single click" sort of operation. This approach would let you perform shutdowns normally or with the backup based upon your choice at the time, rather than always having the backup run.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Yes... but... we are speaking of my mother...
I prefer to be 100% sure she gets the backup done when she shuts her computer down no matter how she does it.
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Another approach might be to create an application that listens for the shutdown request and invokes Reflect appropriately. You could have the application tell Windows to cancel the shutdown (so that the backup can run), and have then the Reflect backup plan shutdown when the backup is complete. Note that the application would have to be smart enough to allow the shutdown issued by Reflect.
Software Zen: delete this;
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AOMEI costed +/-60.00 € coming with free for life updates.
Even it would be a fun program to do, it is not worth the effort for that amount of money.
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I stopped using Acronis years ago after a series of progressively worse UI changes. I just used whatever was built into WHS for years aferwards.
In prep for retiring my WHS NAS for something else I setup VEEAM based on recommendations from elsenet. Other than one poorly handled nuisance issue that only happened saving to WHS but not the Synology (something on the WHS box would touch the file midbackup once a week and veeam would freak out and send an email before successfully retrying overnight) it's worked great. My only current complaint is that even at max compression it's daily/monthly snapshots grew the amount of space it was using way faster than WHSs black box did (I'm guessing file vs block level backup and large outlook mailboxes, or not being as smart with temp files).
Trying something else for comparison had been on my TODO for a few months, but I've never gotten around to setting it up. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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can AOMEI handle UEFI? I doubt it. Best test your backups.
UEFI sounds like a good idea, bit it will *elephant* you.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Isn't UEFI something related to BIOS?
What has this to do with backups?
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PMJI: If your backup uses bootable recovery media for disaster recovery, it may need configuring for EFI/UEFI. Mine does.
>64
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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Ok, no, it's only backupping important data, no OS, no disaster recovery...
Not needed there, but in the other hand, that data is very important.
Thanks for clarifying.
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Disaster recovery from an external bootable device, prepared by the backup application.
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OK, I'm not worried about that, I am only interested in saving the data, reinstalling everything in that computer would be super easy, but the data itself would be a disaster if would be lost.
Thanks for the explanation.
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There is this old saying: Backups always work for 50%. That means the backup.
It helps to test the restore functionality for whatever is needed, files, folders or entire disks.
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Joan, sorry busy week. Let me explain.
UEFI came along because BIOS was not able to prevent root kit injections of malware. Anyone here can correct me, but after researching it a bit (2 weeks of late nights) this is my conclusion. Insert Microsoft to make it even worse. Then add in the TPM hardware... to make a long story short, you cannot easily clone a drive that boots in a UEFI enabled system. What I experienced was that *none* of the backup s/w companies understood it. It was completely hopeless.
You can't even image the damn things - the new drive won't boot. I was trying to move my wife's laptop from a spinner to an SSD - UEFI made it impossible. My new laptop (4 yo now) came with UEFI disabled. I called them up and asked - hey why is this off? "It's not worth the trouble."
I'm an independent consultant. For my to lose a primary boot drive is a catastrophe. This happened to me in 2004. This is long before UEFI or TPM. I have no time to spend long times of recovering backup files at the whim of the backup s/w. I sure as hell can't spend a week reinstalling s/w. For me a backup not only includes data but the complete OS. So I bought a SATA disk imaging device, an extra SATA drive or two. I would pull the active HD from the laptop, pop it into the image device and push copy. Perfect image. Booted every time. Simple.
Technology moves on. I bought my wife what I thought was a nice ASUS laptop. It was so loaded with bloatware, and the spinner was so slow, the laptop was useless (and it's a core i5 with 16GB of ram). I thought I would just image the spinner to an SSD. Won't boot. Welcome to UEFI hell. ASUS had no idea, Microsoft was being Microsoft, I ended up re-installing Win10 fresh on the SSD.
So, nightly data backups of non OS stuff, these s/w programs might be good enough. Image an OS? Be prepared for pain. It took me a week of work to image my NVMe drive, but it did not have UEFI.
Test your backups
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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WOW!
Had no idea... anyway, in this case the computer is not a critical system, only my mother's PC. Files there are important though, therefore, I need only data backup, she has only Windows and Office installed, a virtual machine which attacks the relevant data in the SSD.
Therefore I can recover it all by reinstalling windows (during boot I should do it easily given it is a Lenovo with the recovery image preloaded) and reinstalling Office.
Anyway, now I understand what you said, and wow... It is amazing to see how things get worse over time.
Thanks for the explanation!
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