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W11 - are there Pro and Home versions?

1-Jul-21 21:39

megaadam wrote:
If you google for "linux parent pid" you will find that you can indeed get the parent pid. Programmatically Speaking: Find parent pid given a pid[^]

Documentation states that getppid returns the controller thread pid, which is an additional thread by Linux created the first time a thread for a process is created. Now, I don't need that info now but I find it a flaw in the architecture of a thread - indeed the same documentation specifies that a thread is just a process which overshares. The fact is, if I wanted a process, I would have used a process. I'm used to an entirely different concept of thread and it baffles and irks me.

megaadam wrote:
Linux has something called spin-locks, which are lightweight mutexes.

Busy forms of waiting are useful in some cases but often they are wasteful. I felt the lack of true spinlocks in older Windows (being forced to target XP or even 2K sucked big time) when I was doing user-mode hardware management, but I don't want to use a system where there are only spinlocks.

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jsc421-Jul-21 1:03

jsc42

1-Jul-21 1:03

Every press article I have read about Windows 11 (mainly by people who can't spell 'PC' but want to jump on the bandwagon) has gone on about TPM and centralised taskbars, but none have said what versions of W11 there will be. So, my question is ... will there be a W11 Home and a W11 Pro or just a single W11 generic version?

I have just bought a new PC (prev one is too old for latest W10 updates) with W10 Home on it and I have had an Amazon 'based on your recent views ...' message for a cheap W10 Pro license. So if W11 is likely to be a free upgrade from W10 and has a W11 Pro variant, it would probably be best to upgrade my new PC to W10 Pro to get W11 Pro when it comes out. If there isn't a W11 Pro, then it would be best to stick with W10 Home (no risky upgrade, no charge for new license) and get the generic W11 instead.

Also, I don't get the need for TPM. I cannot imagine a thief is going to take the effort to dismantle a PC just to steal the drive knowing it would be unreadable, when it would be quicker and easier to steal the whole PC which has the bonus that the drive remains readable.

den2k881-Jul-21 1:43

1-Jul-21 1:43

jsc42 wrote:
Also, I don't get the need for TPM. I cannot imagine a thief is going to take the effort to dismantle a PC just to steal the drive knowing it would be unreadable

Too often POS and bank workstation drives are dumped without any physical destruction of the contents, exposing tons of potentially sensible data. Also corporate espionage is a thing, especially when outsourcing and consultancy are widely used.

jsc42 wrote:
will there be a W11 Home and a W11 Pro or just a single W11 generic version?

ing hope they ditch the versioning for the OS, it creates the worst compatibility issues with no reason at all.

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theoldfool1-Jul-21 2:23

theoldfool

1-Jul-21 2:23

Versions?
Versions=$
You can't join a system with Home version to a domain. Businesses need domains.
So, to do away with versions, they can make the new version the price of the Pro version or they can make it the price of Home. Hmm, what to do with the Workstation version?
Any bets?
I think a bigger question would be about any new licensing for running in a VM.

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den2k881-Jul-21 2:45

1-Jul-21 2:45

Yes, but also businesses have usually discounted and bulk prices (small business most often than not don't have domains at all anyway and use the Home edition), and maintaining more versions has a higher cost thant maintaining one.

I can understand a Server version, but Home and Pro should be unified.

I still have nightmares with the horrible Win7 version hell: Starter, Basic, Home, Pro, Ultimate and a couple of others. The compatibility issues I had are the stuff successful horrors are made of.

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jsc421-Jul-21 2:37

jsc42

1-Jul-21 2:37

Found that there will be Pro and Home versions: Frequently Asked Questions: Windows 11 - Microsoft Community[^]

Dan Neely1-Jul-21 3:00

Dan Neely

1-Jul-21 3:00

Yes. Pro is the version that will still be installable without internet access. Home is making an MS account mandatory, and will prevent any internetless install as a result.

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den2k881-Jul-21 3:03

1-Jul-21 3:03

Dan Neely wrote:
Home is making an MS account mandatory, and will prevent any internetless install as a result.

WTAF??? They are practically begging to have their vulnerabilities ethically exposed and exploited, purely as a proof of concept.

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Dan Neely1-Jul-21 3:10

Dan Neely

1-Jul-21 3:10

I'm still undecided if that, or threatening to block any computers more than about 3 years old from upgrading is the most Elephant | [mastadon]

ing stupid thing they've done.

Greg Utas1-Jul-21 3:33

Greg Utas

1-Jul-21 3:33

My laptop will soon turn 5. It still suits my purposes, but maybe it's time to get a new one before they all come with Windows 11.

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David O'Neil1-Jul-21 5:55

David O'Neil

1-Jul-21 5:55

Or buy a retail copy of Win10 with a license key. I think you can still do that, but Uugh!

l89 with i2c communication

Serolla Krish30-Jun-21 23:37

Serolla Krish

30-Jun-21 23:37

hello sir i am working on stm8s105 microcontroller, actually i wrote the codefor l89 gps module with uart communication , but i want to interface with i2c protocal , can you suggest how to do

Richard MacCutchan30-Jun-21 23:41

Richard MacCutchan

30-Jun-21 23:41

Well you could start by learning to read the messages that tell you that this forum is not for programming questions; you should use https://www.codeproject.com/Questions/ask.aspx[^]. But you will need to provide much more detail about your problem, as no one here can guess what your difficulty is.

glennPattonWork330-Jun-21 23:49

glennPattonWork3

30-Jun-21 23:49

Hmm, I might be able to help. Ask the question as Richard says ...

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Rage1-Jul-21 0:34

Rage

1-Jul-21 0:34

Really, have you been dealing with these small microcontrollers as well ?

glennPattonWork31-Jul-21 0:51

glennPattonWork3

1-Jul-21 0:51

Not them as such, but I have battled I2c for many years. Check your pull ups

Richard MacCutchan1-Jul-21 2:01

Richard MacCutchan

1-Jul-21 2:01

glennPattonContracting2 wrote:
Check your pull ups

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Serolla Krish4-Jul-21 23:48

Serolla Krish

4-Jul-21 23:48

how to receive the packet frames from i2c insted of uart, actuualy i writed code for uart , i want to chagne the code to i2c because of my controller having the 1 i2c and 1 uart , so i dont want to change my hardware . is there any commands to change the communication switching form uart to i2c
if you have sample code send to me please .. thank you

glennPattonWork35-Jul-21 4:40

glennPattonWork3

5-Jul-21 4:40

Right, you aren't asking in the right place! But I2C and UART? I2C is used for inter-IC comms, so having a UART is to allow off board comms, I2C on board comms. There should be a header (#include) file for the I2C, find the correct data sheet for the chip and look up InterIC communications

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megaadam30-Jun-21 23:36

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30-Jun-21 23:36

I just had my second shot. Everything feels normal. And, btw, I have always loved Windows.

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Nelek30-Jun-21 23:52

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30-Jun-21 23:52

megaadam wrote:
And, btw, I have always loved Windows.

You got your second shot... but don't you think that confesing such a sin is a bit too much? Big Grin | :-D

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Rage1-Jul-21 0:28

Rage

1-Jul-21 0:28

Have you checked your smartphone ? How much faster is 5G now ?

Chris C-B1-Jul-21 0:39

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1-Jul-21 0:39

I've just got my EU vaccine passport through a flawless web process, with my ID confirmed via my smart-phone. The interesting thing is that my smart-phone was only 4G capable before... Unsure | :~