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So that was your trigger, huh? Sorry, I keep forgetting the world has mostly turned into a bunch of snowflakes.
You can go lie down and come back to me after you've recovered.
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dandy72 wrote: trigger
I do not think that means what you think it means.
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Re-read the last few messages. According to you, "drinking the Kool-Aid" amounts to an insult.
Maybe you don't want to call it a trigger, but you sure show all the signs of letting small things get to you.
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Slacker007 wrote: anonymous patient data.
Sure. In the same way that when you "delete" your data from Google, it just means it clears out what you have access to when you subsequently request what they know about you.
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I am fairly confident that no HIPAA laws will be broken. I am also fairly confident that Google is operating on this project within the confines of the law.
Member 14840496 wrote: Greed knows no bounds.
Google is in the business to make money, among other things. I would think people would know this by now.
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With the increase in hacking that is going on today, I would be careful about stating "fairly confident".
Nobody said they were not operating within the law; that is, until patient data gets loose. However, I am fairly confident that if YOUR medical history, or someone in your family's medical history got all over the internet, you would be the first to complain.
The statement echoes so many of the true life crimes where the people always say "we never thought that would happen here, to us".
Amazing naiveté.
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Member 14840496 wrote: , I am fairly confident that if YOUR medical history, or someone in your family's medical history got all over the internet, you would be the first to complain.
Why? Are you embarrassed by your medical history?
If someone posted that you were treated for a heart attack on such and such a date and then had your tonsils out another date, then had gonorrhea on this date, etc., etc., I would not care. Why do you?
And if someone did steal data they are going to steal millions of files so if they post millions of patients data the likelihood that anyone who knows you will see your data is very slim.
Don't misunderstand, I am all for privacy, but if someone's health care data is leaked, I have zero interest in finding out what the leaked data is. You could not pay me to go looking at the stolen data.
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Embarrassed - no. No STD's in my records. Yours?
Life insurance companies would love to have medical histories.
Some employers would too.
But I am glad YOU wouldn't want to look at them. lol.
I get the feeling that some people in here have Google stock.
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Member 14840496 wrote: Life insurance companies would love to have medical histories.
They usually ask for that anyway.
Member 14840496 wrote: I get the feeling that some people in here have Google stock.
Everybody should. It performs very well.
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Yep. Thank you for confirming my suspicions.
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What suspicions? Because I'm pretty sure you're wrong.
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Sorry, I thought you were being serious. Good day then.
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Oh, here we go. The ol' "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about" fallacy...
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dandy72 wrote: fallacy
Why is it a fallacy?
What do we have to worry about? If the threat is real then you should be able to quantify it.
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SeanChupas wrote: What do we have to worry about?
Egads.
Yeah, Google's the greatest company that has ever existed. Gotcha.
SeanChupas wrote: If the threat is real then you should be able to quantify it.
Do your own research. This whole "nothing to hide/no worries" thing has been debated ad nauseam.
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dandy72 wrote: This whole "nothing to hide/no worries" thing has been debated ad nauseam.
If that were true, then you should be able to list the dangers very quickly and succinctly. Well?
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SeanChupas wrote: If that were true,
You're suggesting it's not?
You're the epitome of laziness are you? LMGTFY was created for you.
Let Me Google That For You
Searching for that, you get page after page of relevant results. Christ, the very first entry is a Wikipedia page on the topic.
Well?
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Why is it so hard for you to explain it? That tells me that you do not even understand what you think you believe. Otherwise, you could explain it.
You have responded several times but yet still cannot explain it. Doesn't that tell you something?
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Because I'm not going to be goaded into wasting my time cutting and pasting things so they can be presented to you in a way your tiny little mind can comprehend. Is everything handed to you on a silver platter?
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the same could be said about any doctor's office or hospital in the world, not just Google.
I work with PHI, and HIPAA data all the time. Its the core data that our websites and applications service.
I think you are operating on 100% fear factor here, and you are all worked up, and you want to tell the world and get them all worked up and afraid, just like you are.
Have fun with that. Cheers.
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So your job is to pooh-pooh a topic and read people's minds. Wow.
BTW - I worked with HIPAA data form 9 years. Cheers.
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Quote: [S]tarting in 2003, changes made to HIPAA eliminated your right to control the disclosure of your own medical records. The phrase “patient permission” was changed to “regulatory permission.” This one rule change means your medical records can now be disclosed to any "covered entity," including data clearinghouses, accounting firms, law firms, and banks without your permission. In certain circumstances, your employer can obtain “regulatory permission” to view your medical records.
Your medical records can even be released to marketing companies if what they’re selling is related to your condition or how it’s treated; the management or coordination of your care; or involves alternative treatments, therapies, health care providers, or other care settings.
What's more, a federal rule that went into effect in 2006 allows lenders to obtain or use medical information for determining if you qualify for credit. They can’t do it directly, but if they gain access to your medical records, they can legally share it with their "affiliates." This magically converts the data into credit information, not medical data.
Indeed, your “protected health information” can be disclosed without your authorization in 12 different scenarios. Consider this diagram from thedatamaporg[^] showing where the data of “You, the Patient” is shared.
Thus, when you visit a physician or health care facility in the United States, never assume that what you disclose to them will remain private. And the “HIPAA Notice” almost every medical facility requires you to sign as a condition of treatment virtually guarantees your medical records will be used, disclosed, and disseminated without your consent.
You can, of course, request that your physician or other health care provider restrict disclosure of your personal medical data. But they are under no legal obligation to comply. Nor do they have to state a reason for denying your request, or for that matter, respond to it at all. And even if they agree to a restriction, in some cases, they might be prohibited from honoring it.
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Really. Your dates are interesting. Because when I went to work for a large health care service company in 2009 until 2018, I had to take a HIPAA exam every year; and none that verbiage was ever in those exams. So I will assume that your dated information (2003-2006) was changed somewhere along the line.
If anything, they kept tightening the regulations.
So I guess by your info, the company was just wasting money creating and forcing these exams on employees based on the current HIPAA regulations during that period just for fun.
You have any new info as of 2021 by any chance? Because I would like to see what they are now.
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