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The product of bitcoin mining is a completed transaction, at the lowest cost.

Concentrating pollution is beneficial overall on a global scale. The reason is that the expensive removal technologies only have to be in a few places, and the removal can be done on an industrial scale. Let me illustrate with an example. Consider that Hg is widely acknowledged to be a bad substance and great efforts were made to remove as much of it as possible. When CFL light bulbs were introduced we were sold on the value proposition of saving energy to save the environment. Except for that little bit of Hg that was in each CFL, which eventually would find its way back into the environment, like a micro pollution event. Wouldn't you agree that dealing with mercury in a power plant is more efficient than setting up a whole new recycle stream in an attempt to remove microscopic amounts from a glass bulb that needs to be broken first?

Most of these green energy attempts are sold on the basis hiding the overall cost, or shifting the cost to tax payers. There is this power plant in England that is touted to be the largest biomass powered of its kind. An example for the future no less. Where does the fuel come from? Oops! That is not a question that is helpful for the cause. Because it shows the false premise that you were sold.

Everything we do has benefits and costs. The costs aren't always visible when politicians are involved, but if you go looking you will find them.

But wait there is more....

"The IEA assembled a large body of data about a central, and until now largely ignored, aspect of the energy transition: It requires mining industries and infrastructure that don’t exist. Wind, solar and battery technologies are built from an array of “energy transition minerals,” or ETMs, that must be mined and processed. The IEA finds that with a global energy transition like the one President Biden envisions, demand for key minerals such as lithium, graphite, nickel and rare-earth metals would explode, rising by 4,200%, 2,500%, 1,900% and 700%, respectively, by 2040.

The world doesn’t have the capacity to meet such demand. As the IEA observes, albeit in cautious bureaucratese, there are no plans to fund and build the necessary mines and refineries. The supply of ETMs is entirely aspirational. And if it were pursued at the quantities dictated by the goals of the energy transition, the world would face daunting environmental, economic and social challenges, along with geopolitical risks."
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