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Dave Kreskowiak27-Apr-21 5:55
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Dave Kreskowiak3-May-21 6:44
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Sorry. The driver for what gets me to the end of a project is mainly time constraints. If I to take a few days to figure out a problem and come up with a work around, that's too long in most cases. There's plenty of times where, due to outside project forces, I have just hours to get a project out the door. That doesn't leave much, if any, room for something to go wrong and get it working.

Phil.Benson wrote:
but how many Packagers have you come across that had *no idea* what happens under the hood?
L-O-T-S of people call themselves "packagers" but really don't have a clue. I've been in interviews where "packagers" don't know what an .MSI really is! (Resumes are useless.) The challenge is finding people who have at least a minimum level of knowledge and are trainable to do the job, and do it to standards. Around here, that ain't easy to find.

Outside companies are no different. You can guess who they're hiring to put on a contract job. Also, companies that do packaging work usually don't do it to our standards. We constantly have to check their work and get things fixed, so are we really saving time by getting outsiders to handle some of the load? No, not really. We've been through half a dozen companies in the last decade. Doing it ourselves, we are always faster, more consistent and with a high quality of work.

Maybe our standards are too high, but when we deploy a piece of software to 16,000 machines, the standards better be high because we don't want to go fix all of those machines.

We don't get paid to repack so much as we get paid to protect the production environment, from vendors and from ourselves.

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