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Dave Kreskowiak27-Apr-21 5:15
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Dave Kreskowiak29-Apr-21 5:17
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A good packaging pro knows the limits of his tools ,Wise 8(unfortunately dead), AdminStudio, RayPack whatever... also solid exclusion lists and OS knowledge is a *must*...

WiseScript executables can hang on exit on Windows 10, anywhere from a couple minutes to over a week before I end up just killing the task. When they hang, it's always after the last line in the script, where the executable is doing cleanup and tearing itself down before the process is torn down. There is no fix, nor a workaround for it, other than rewriting in some other language/tool.

AdminStudio/InstallShield is currently the tool of choice, and the one with all the bugs Flexera doesn't seem to want to fix, but they'll add new "features", like a flat UI nobody likes. Yes, we've brought up the issues we keep running into with them, and, ... 4 full versions later we're still waiting for them to fix the problems we find, like crashing while building .MSI projects from a capture. We're sure it's with the data in registry values, but it is not limited to any one key.

Now, in a project with literally thousands of keys/values, are you going to sit there for a week, digging through every one of them, looking for exactly what's causing the crash? Nope. I don't have the time for that. That's Flexera's job. And yes, we've sent them a half dozen projects were the problem occurs. No word nor fix for it in years.

Now, how are you going to come up with an exclusion where the problem can occur in any key, but you also don't know exactly what content causes the crash? I have my suspicions, but there is no way to come up with an exclusion filter for them. Oh, and don't think that you can just exclude all of the registry from the build and add stuff back until the crash starts happening. It doesn't help. You can exclude the entire registry and it still crashes while "building" the registry of the .MSI project.

I running anywhere between 30 to 50 projects at any one time. I don't have the time to do Flexera's job for them, nor do I have the source code for the Repack tools, otherwise I'd fix it myself.

And, frankly, the whole "oh, you just have to know your tools and O/S" thing to work around every problem is insulting. There are some problems you just cannot work around.

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Internal Signing / Self Signing is the way to go....

You're missing something there, but I'll leave it up to you to figure out what that is. After all, you should know your tools.

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