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Mycroft Holmes wrote: Nah stew, some carrots and onions with plenty of garlic and let the little bugger stew for a couple of hours.
Yeah, that's bad, wasting a perfectly good piece of meat. You know there's no "English" restaurants on the continent? Know why? Because all you do is boil it to crap with carrots and onions!
First, you need to get your hands on "stroop"; Dutch product.
Then you prep your rabbit, drencht it in water and bit of vinegar and bit of salt. It'll soften the meat a bit and provide sour taste. Then, next day, cook it; throw in "stroop" to taste, until you have a sweet/sour thing. Add sugar is you used too much vinegar. Bayleaf at that point, plus pepper corns. Use some binder to thicken the sauce.
That recipe is medieval. Serve with (fresh) bread and cheap red wine. Dip your bread into the wine, than into rabbit sauce. No, the wine is not for drinking, but for dipping bread.
Goes very well with (old) Gouda cheese.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Background: I started programming in 1974. Business applications in an assembler-based language, slightly higher-level than actual machine opcodes. Later got into business applications in a proprietary Business Basic, and later COBOL. I moved into other IT areas than programming, closest I came back to programming was scripting for PC and server administration and software in Windows environments.
Never even got my toes wet with C, C++ or any modern programming concept. No Frameworks, no IDEs. Barely touched Unix and hated its case-sensitivity. Retired now.
I've a need to manipulate my contact lists on an iPhone, for example mass deletion based on email domain; or moving others between Exchange server, gmail contacts etc. So, I'm thinking of learning, and programming a small app for myself to install on my own phone.
Two questions.
The first one: Am I mad?
The second: How would I start? What environment, language, learning aids, best practices?
Thanks for any thoughts!
PPI: Probably Past It
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Programming for iPhone you would need to learn Objective-C or Swift. But the learning curve for either is quite lengthy. You would also need to learn the support library that could handle the contacts data. A far easier solution would be to export your contacts into a spreadsheet such as Excel, LibreOffice, or whatever iPhone uses, and manipulate the data from there.
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Do it! At the very least you'll learn some new swear words.
For writing iOS apps you've got a ton of options: xcode & swift for fully native, or Xamarin and C# to stick to the Microsoft stack, some hybrid app options like NativeScript, React Native, and Ionic, or Google's cross-platform framework Flutter.
I've been looking to write a mobile app to augment a little side project I'm working on that's written in Vue.js and Typescript. Reusing all the TS I've written would be nice, so I'm tempted to use NativeScript but I'm also very tempted by Flutter since it uses Dart - a nice clean language - and is being actively developed.
One thing I do want to do is run the whole thing on my Mac instead of being tied to Visual Studio and Windows, so VS Code and Flutter seems like a nice choice.
Let us know what you choose.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Or Uno (built off Xamarin).
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- Any mental illness you may have is probably unrelated to your desire to learn programming.
 - It depends on the hardware that you have for development. If you have a Windows PC, I would use Visual Studio with the add-ins for iOS development (using C# and Xamarin). The Visual Studio IDE is excellent, and the Community Edition is free for single developers, so your financial investment is nil.
As for learning C# and Xamarin, I would go with the O'Reilly Publishing books. "Learning C#" is a little dated, but a good start. "Programming C# 8.0" is more up-to-date, but may assume knowledge that you don't have, it you've skipped developments in programming over the last few decades. They also have a wide selection of books about Xamarin, but never having read them, I can't recommend any book in particular.
Enjoy!
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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andublin wrote: The first one: Am I mad?
Yes
andublin wrote: The second: How would I start?
A lot of things like this, someone has already figured out how to do. So I always start by googling and seeing if I can figure out the right combination of keywords to use.
If I spend enough time at it, the Google AI realizes what I want and creates a fake blogger with some credible posts and one of them is the solution I'm looking for. If the Google AI is having a slow day, it'll even create a Git repo and a NuGet or npm package, complete with documentation, forums where fake people have asked questions and received answers, maybe some branches and versions.
P.S. - This reply was posted by a Google AI competitor. 
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The place to start is to read the postimg rules for the Lounge.
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr.PhD P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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Dr.Walt Fair, PE wrote: The place to start is to read the postimg rules for the Lounge.
“It is, first and foremost, a respectful meeting and discussion area for those wishing to discuss the life of a Software developer.
The #1 rule is: Be respectful of others, of the site, and of the community as a whole.”
I thank you for your outlook.
Another grumpy old guy
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Thanks to all of you for your input. There’s more than enough food for thought.
I’m not sure if I’m mad enough to proceed, but probably mad enough to take it a step or two further.
Again thanks.
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I would think it depends on your goals, do you want to manipulate your contact list or do you want to learn new stuff.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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Before starting any of the above:
No backup.
No Mercy!
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Quote: Never even got my toes wet with C, C++ or any modern programming concept. No Frameworks, no IDEs.
Mad. Don't do it. See the first couple of responses and spend your time some other way.
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xkcd: Eradication[^]
Revenge is a dish best served cold, after all! 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Yes, when it comes to this virus a degree of revenge would be very appropriate. 
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Q: What happens to a lawyer when they take Viagra?
A: They get taller.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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Rick York wrote: What happens to a lawyer when they take Viagra?
They learn how to write sentences with the proper pluralization forms.
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It doesn't help with that. Especially when there are no pluralizations. They is the correct pronoun for a third person, gender indeterminate reference.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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My talks on Fairy Mine Rocks are going well – I keep getting asked for Gnome Ore.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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This pun just hit rock bottom : )
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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We will rock you?
(Nono, we can keep going!  )
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Trying to reply as lapidary as I can, for I don't wish to reply slate, what shale I say about this gem?
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| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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